Coronavirus Vaccine Discussion

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/as-delta-variant-surges-a-third-of-eligible-arab-israelis-remain-unvaccinated/amp/

Despite the low immunization rate, infections in Arab communities remain disproportionately low. Just 7% of those currently hospitalized are Arab and only 11% of total cases are in Arab cities and towns. The Health Ministry has designated 51 Israeli cities as high-infection “red” areas, but just three of them are Arab.

Health officials speculated that insufficient testing could be behind the low numbers, although the percentage of tests coming back positive — a key indicator of undetected viral spread — also remains low.

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The highest 7-day death average for Iceland, since the start of the pandemic, is 2.

Sometimes it gets up to 1. 99% of the time it’s usually sitting at zero.

Between April 20, 2020 and 16 October, 2020 there were no deaths from Covid in Iceland.

The ‘leading US disease expert,’ Carlos del Rio, MD is a Distinguished Professor of Medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Emory University School of Medicine (cited in linked Business Insider article above), and he is on various boards that receive funding from pharmaceutical companies.

One example:

Via Emory, (and by their website’s admittance) he literally works side by side with the CDC, as it is located right next door to Emory in Atlanta.

The CDC is also apparently very much influenced by pharmaceutical companies.

Leading expert? For sure. Impartial expert? :thinking:

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Well, no, it doesn’t prove that. As @FairComment pointed out, Iceland has never had much of a problem with COVID, ever … except post-vaccination, when cases (but not deaths) went higher than their April and October peaks. Neither is it relevant that they have a low death toll in the context of a high number of cases: that was similarly true in 2020, and other places with lower vax coverage have seen a similar declining ratio between cases and deaths.

Meanwhile, there’s Israel, with a similar vaccination coverage, forcing everyone to take a third shot because the first and second (apparently) didn’t do what they expected.

The most likely reason for their low death toll is that Icelanders are extremely robust people.

Of course this all depends on how you define “works”. If your aim is merely to sell a lot of vaccines, then vaccines work.

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Apparently, they are a hardy bunch.

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This is unintentionally hilarious.

It implies that people aren’t being hospitalized because they’re not doing enough testing. Those poor Arabs. Don’t they understand that they’re all desperately ill?

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I reckon Bjork could handle herself in a fight.

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None of these deaths linked to the vaccines. CECC is investigating.

Violently happy

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Not totally related to vaccines (except in the context of vaccine escape variants/breakthrough infections), but the bedouin thing got me thinking about camels serving as a SARS-CoV-2 reservoir for future variants (as in the case of MERS).

I read last week that antibodies had been recently detected in wild deer in the U.S. Plus mink of course, and maybe cats as discussed ages ago, and possibly rodents or farm animals.

Seems to be an actual concern as well:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00531-z

When are we getting the mandatory 24/7 vaccine drips again?

No need to speculate:

This one is better:

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I imagine her screaming like a banshee, in the manner of Mother in Raised by Wolves (worth watching if you haven’t seen it).

Worrying … not just for the obvious reasons, but because humanity is now so obsessed with this that I suspect they’ll deal with a significant “outbreak” in some other species by simply wiping that species off the face of the Earth. The word ‘culling’ was mentioned in the article.

Funnily enough, that thought actually occurred to me as well.

Oops.

Herd Immunity a Mirage. Vaccines Effectiveness Now Halved.

Professor Andrew Pollard, head of the Oxford Vaccine Group and chair of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation in the UK, has finally capitulated, admitting Covid-19 herd immunity is actually an impossibility.

In a recent study which randomly tests up to 150,000 people in England for Covid-19, scientists found that the Delta strain was dominant and had reduced the effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccines to just 49 per cent.

It seems like the vaccines might have been a tad overhyped :cry:

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Oh no. We developed a vaccine for the original version and because a new version of the virus is out, our biotech industries have completely forgotten how to do anything and have been reduced to slobbering infants.

What ever shall we do?

:roll:

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Why would you think they are ‘slobbering infants?’ They’re obviously expert, and know full well what they are doing.

“Before the Covid-19 pandemic, Big Pharma had been easing out of the vaccine business for decades. By 2019, the major vaccine makers supplying America had dwindled to a handful of large companies—Merck, Sanofi, Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson. Because vaccines are only used once or twice—as opposed to medicines that people take daily—they are not as profitable as other meds. The scale of vaccination programs also invites class action litigation if something goes awry.”

However, by them signing world governments into essentially lifetime contracts of never-ending mandatory supply, and absolving themselves of responsibility for ‘deaths by vaccine,’ the vaccines companies (boosted by the initial 22 billion from US govt.), created an amazing business plan. Executives at Moderna and Pfizer then cashed in on the vaccine, selling shares timed precisely to clinical trial press releases.

Clever chipmunk, not slobbering infants.

I presume most people will just sign up for never-ending mandatory boosters. They’ll have to, as their government has signed those contracts, and the taxpayer must cough up for decades.

Probably need another vaccine for that cough, too.

“The pandemic crisis offered a challenge that government might have used to restructure the shareholder model of for-profit medicine, a model that dates to the 1980s and corporate America’s turn toward putting shareholders above the public good. Instead, taxpayer money flowed to a small group of capitalists with almost no strings attached and little transparency. The contracts are redacted, although Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests are pending.”

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Did you hear about how Abott laid off a bunch of workers and told them to destroy the COVID test kits on their way out the door?

I’m not sure “slobbering infants” is the best word. Negligent a**holes who know exactly what they’re going might be more accurate.

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Well, obviously, “we” will continue to develop and issue vaccines until people’s deltoid muscles look like pincushions, as “we” chase after ever more virulent mutants.

Or, we could simply admit that nature has won, and that we should have shown a little more humility in the first place.

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So your plan is to do nothing.

Not true. Misinformation.

No, my plan is to not take actions that make things worse.

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