I just heard on China CCTV International that they are reporting app. 2,100 NEW! cases of H1N1 every day in Taiwan. Taiwan news has been low key before I left. (I’m in China now)
Report says that Taiwan predicts 10,000 deaths. All schools are to close the school if more than 2 students in the same class are diagnosed. .02% of all Taiawanese are reportedly infected.
I know this is China and reporting is not 100%. Anything in the news there?
[quote=“Enigma”]I just heard on China CCTV International that they are reporting app. 2,100 NEW! cases of H1N1 every day in Taiwan. Taiwan news has been low key before I left. (I’m in China now)
Report says that Taiwan predicts 10,000 deaths. All schools are to close the school if more than 2 students in the same class are diagnosed. .02% of all Taiawanese are reportedly infected.
I know this is China and reporting is not 100%. Anything in the news there?[/quote]
Propaganda response in the wake of Lama’s visit …?
There are constantly reports on TV about new cases , schools being closed / disinfected but 10K fatalities… well no.
You mean this?
Bit confusing. 
Thanks for that quick response. I did doubt the veracity, but we all have good friends and family that we worry about. I am still a bit worried. Glad I brought a 3M mask with me for my departure. If they report 2100 daily in Taiwan, I can only imagine what it would be like in China. Wankers!
Nevertheless, the hype rules… The news are asking for the minister of Health’s head because he told teh people not to panic and to trust the especialists… Plus he said it was unlikel;y that one third of the population would get sick at the same time. Imagine the audacity!
From Taiwan Today, translated from the United Daily News
[quote]Chen Chien-jen, research fellow at the Academia Sinica and former minister of health, said Aug. 24 the total number of fatalities from influenza A (H1N1) could be as high as 7,000.
Chen’s prediction is based on a conservative estimate of one third of the population being infected in this wave of the H1N1 outbreak, and a death rate of 0.1 percent. The death rate from H1N1 is about 0.2 percent to 0.4 percent, depending on the preventive methods adopted by different countries.
The death rate for seasonal influenza is usually less than 0.1 percent. Each year 2,000 to 3,000 flu patients succumb to severe symptoms and complications, most of them children and people over age 65. “The new H1N1 epidemic is quite different. Those who have died from the new virus are mostly aged between 15 and 64. Therefore, the impact of H1N1 on the society will be more severe,” Chen said.
Basing his prediction on the infection and death rates in the United States and Japan, former Director of the Centers for Disease Control Su Ih-jen estimated the eventual death toll at 5,000 to 10,000. If preventive measures are insufficient that figure could be even larger. He forecast the number of patients will increase dramatically after schools open, reaching a peak in October or November.
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http://taiwantoday.tw/ct.asp?xItem=60647&CtNode=419
And just so you will know in the hands of who our health lies:
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2009/09/01/222799/Schools-opt.htm
In my daughters school they have been aggressive in checking the temperature and spraying the hands of everyone that comes in the building. As this is a rather slow process some ‘important’ people sneak in through the side entrance. They still have the ac on.
no surprise… “VIP” entrances in schools arer Sooooo Hype 
In our office building with 3000 workers, they put a few posters , and somewhere - far -far away a set of alcohol spray bottles. I bet they still will be there in 3 months with the same quantity
We have alcohol dispensers in every corner, and at the entrance of the hall where all the furriners are kept. 
Same here. Yet I’d rather have a slow lineup with a few loopholes than some evil vaccination regime. They even talk about sticking yet another unneeded needle in my kids, then someone is going to endure the wrath of this particular red-haired barbarian.
So what is suppose to happen if a student has a temperature?
Deny them entry?, or give them a facemask? I’ve noticed that since they started taking temps, more students are wearing facemasks in class, and some students said they had a ‘red light’ from the little temp checker, but were still in class. For many schools, this may just be about appearances, a ‘make it look like we are doing something’ sort of thing.
Do facemasks actually stop transmission? I think its a joke myself, most of the facemasks I see being worn are the cheap 7-11 jobbies, not medical grade facemasks. Is there any substantial evidence showing that these cheap facemasks do any good? The flu virus is very small, much smaller than the filters in most masks. In order to be completely effective, a mask also needs to be ‘fit tested’ to your face so things don’t go around the filters and in the sides. I think only a properly fitted respirator would do any good.
They might help a little when a sick person is coughing and sneezing a lot, they may reduce the amount of germs/virus being expelled, but otherwise its a false sense of security.
:no-no: Facemasks are pure bullshit. :discodance: They don’t work and they look stupid. Period. :loco: 
In this case I doubt fashion is of great concern to people.
We will have our youngest wear a mask primarily to help keep his hands out of his mouth and nose. A strategy which is echoed by Dr. Manoj Jain here.
Otherwise our belief is that the best defense is simply to keep our kids as healthy, and hands as clean, as possible.
At my daughters elementary school the child has to go home. In my son’s kindergarden they have a ‘sick room’ and are required to go home.
Argh! Its the dreaded flu! Whatever will happen to life on earth? It will never be the same again! 
And THAT is wise advice. I’m just SO glad ours isn’t going to school yet – I’m terrified they’d be handing out Tamiflu to the kiddies like sweeties.
Life was so much easier when it was called Swine Flu. Boy how the time flies.
Well, Tamiflu is proven not to work. I red an article about a TW women being injected with Tamiflu as family members were found positive on H1N1.
Tamiflu failed and she got contaminated as here family. Nothing was stated about injection / incubation so it still might be questionable
For the past few days we’ve had to have our temperature taken and use that alcohol spray stuff on our hands before being allowed into the gym (world gym) - I’m not sure why you’d want to go to the gym if you had a temperature over 38 though.
In this case I doubt fashion is of great concern to people.
We will have our youngest wear a mask primarily to help keep his hands out of his mouth and nose. A strategy which is echoed by Dr. Manoj Jain here.
Otherwise our belief is that the best defense is simply to keep our kids as healthy, and hands as clean, as possible.
BINGO! During the SARS epidemic, we had all of the kids at our school wear masks. I don’t think SARS even made it to our piddly little town, but we noticed that suddenly, the kids weren’t sick with colds and such so much anymore, as the “useless” masks kept those fingers out of their noses and mouths. It was also more noticable if a child breached the “sanitation zone” by digging for gold. (Then, they had to go downstairs, wash their hands, and be sprayed with sanitizer; very embarrassing, really! I actually kept that rule and adhere to it to this day.)
Even if the masks don’t prevent the flu per se, they help to prevent other germies that could weaken a child’s (or adult’s) immune system. While hot and uncomfortable, I fully support it.