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What makes you think I don’t? I recommend dentists, accountants and doctors to friends and coworkers.
Same same.

Also, I have worked in the industry and I know how their taxes are done. They get low pay because of the tips. So I tip. I don’t want to change the world. I just want a BLT.

Tipping is demeaning. Like, if I think you did your job well enough I’ll deign to pay you for your labor. It’s doubly a problem in the U.S. post pandemic because inflation has driven up prices for everything to the point where it’s barely worth the price even if the cashier doesn’t have his or her hand out for a tip too on top of the exorbitant price you’ve just paid for that takeout sandwich.

I haven’t eaten one less egg or one less Italian sub since big bad inflation. I think it’s time we stopped pretending we and everyone else are paupers. Just tip the gal!

Do you tip cashiers? It seems everyone has his or her hand out for a tip in Oregon these days. I may not be a pauper but if I gave money to everyone who has his hand out I would be a pauper.

I have, but I rarely buy shit coffee. It’s a dollar. I don’t care. I earned it and it’s mine to give away. I give money to panhandlers too. :idunno:

My wife used to insist we pull over and give money to panhandlers working an intersection when we first ā€œmoved backā€ to Oregon for school until one day when she offered a Portland panhandler a handful of change and he refused it and called her a cheap bitch.

That’s funny, but think about it and see what a pocket full of a change does for a homeless person. :laughing:

I get very good feedback, but I’m awesome. I initiate the action and the verbal back and forth. I let them know if bad weather is on the way. They godbless me and I say takeiteasybrother. When the light changes, I leave.

During the meat of covid, no one seemed to stop for them. I did only once, but it was the luck of the draw really. The guy said I was awesome, and I said I know. He said I was better than all these other people, waving his arms in frustration at the cars that passed him by or ignored him. It was at a stop light, coming off the bypass, so three lanes, always busy. I said nah, they/re hurting just like you and me. Light changed and I was off, and the guy probably thought, fuck you and your four dollars. :laughing:

I give money to poor people I encounter, just not to some able-bodied dude begging on a street corner surrounded by retail businesses with help wanted signs galore in the windows.

Many businesses ain’t going to hire a homeless guy.

Respect. But, a waitress or a busboy or a hostess is working his or her arse off day in and out. Fuck that job and the all the jobs like them. I’ll tip as long as I can tip. I respect the effort.

Not every homeless dude is a bum though, right?

Didn’t vaguely imply they were.

I, of course, tip food servers because $2.30 an hour isn’t a fair wage so it’s up to me to make up the difference. Meanwhile their bosses raise the price of meals ā€œbecause of inflationā€ to the point where it’s hard to justify going out to eat anymore, at least for someone like me who grew up poor. I much prefer the system in Asia where there’s no feudal master/servant dining mentality to deal with.

I went on holiday to the US a few years ago.

Like in any foreign country, figuring out the coins was a pain especially cos some didn’t have numbers on them. Weird.

Anyway I dumped them on my bedside table while I went out for the day. Came back to all my coins gone.

I thought I’d been robbed then realised where I was. Surely there should be a note accompanying tips rather than them taking any money they find lying around.

Anyway. De facto compulsory tipping is weird. Bosses should pay their staff. Guests should be able to use beside tables as they see fit.

Australia is like this too. Generally.

Is that why servers in Asia aren’t all dressed the same?

How about paying workers a living wage?

Just sayin’.

Guy

Is that what the workers want?

Karl

I enjoy the absence of tipping in Taiwan so much.

For diners or hotel guests it’s always an awkward moment, for the recipient it’s always making them feel like being in a pitiful position. The possibility of pissing off people when not giving enough is ridiculous.

Pay the price on the menu [plus that stupid extra 10% service charge if needed] or the room rate, end of story. Why should customers be concerned about the wages of waiting stuff or room service people? If wages are too low, there should be other ways to change that.

Ditto with Japan. The price listed is the price. Easy peasy!

And if someone is going to argue that the service in Japan is worse than the service in the US, well then I don’t know what to say to them other than international travel can help to broaden the mind. :slightly_smiling_face:

Guy

Well, there aren’t. In South Africa, most waitstaff don’t even get paid. They work solely for tips. You can scream and cry about how wrong it is and wail about the unfairness of it all, but that’s the way it is. Howling on the internet about how unjust it is, isn’t changing anything.