Think about it.
I donât know. But the fact that we have to question it seems to be enough to not try. This isnât something we can get wrong and say oops. This is how governments collapse and civil wars start.
I donât think Iâm a large scale single organization is a huge possibility. But i do think this happening at a small scale in large enough quantities ruins the legitimacy of the election and integrity of the ballot.
I do think itâs likely there will be a significant amount of votes that are from people voting for other family members. Such as parents for kids. And as I mentioned, being pressure to vote by others is also a concern. I think the elderly are also easy targets to vote for.
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Iâm pretty sure I have no idea how 1910 West 47th Street, Cleveland Ohio is voting.
If you do, then I would like to know what you are smoking to get those psychic powers.
Nice house though.
So ballots will be delivered to that address? If so then I propose that any mail so addressed is subject to being destroyed.
No, but you said address. Address of the voter?
This is a huge problem even without postal voting. Even here in Taiwan. My wifeâs aunt gave her a 2 hour lecture on how to vote for the blue party. Iâm sure if it were a postal vote, her aunt would have filled it out and posted it for her.
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But you say as if there would be no resistance at all.
You and your wife seem like smart people, would you not have resisted?
Would you not have pressed charges?
Wouldnât have pressed charges. Because ⌠family.
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Exactly. I doubt most family would rat each other out if they didnât care enough to vote either.
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If family members are getting coerced everywhere, it seems like there is more of an apathy and education problem than there is a voting problem.
My family like the Liberal Party. Theyâve attempted to suggest that I shouldnât vote Conservative, but they have never touched my mail in voting papers.
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You donât think those people getting on a boat to parade for Trump or those people screaming with pussy hats would try to vote for others if they could?
Not every family is like yours. People cut ties with family members for voting for Trump these days.
Well⌠Granted the President suggested people should try to vote twice after decrying alleged fraud. I think thatâs probably a bigger issue, but fair enough.
A lot of great points made here. Even if I donât agree with everything.
I definitely believe that mail in ballots should be available to overseas citizens.
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That would be on the return address label.
The address label will be that of the polling station. Every address label with the polling station address poof goes âmissing.â Or is subject to same.
You donât think a 0% turnout wouldnât raise alarms?
And still, they dont know what the votes inside actually say, it just seems like a very blind effort. A rolling of the dice.
My understanding of that was he was saying it ironically (âif voter fraud really isnât an issue, than we shouldnât have an issue with people voting twice since theyâd be found outâ [suggesting that the system cannot catch people voting twice]).
Not a good look, sure, but also not seriously suggesting people commit voter fraud
I wouldnât even joke about that⌠Itâs so distasteful.
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But this is information thatâs available. Party activists know which households vote which way (or are likely to), so itâs a little more complicated granted.
As I mentioned earlier this kind of fraud has been going on for a long time in the US, likely as long as mail in ballots have been counted.
You mean how he tricked to media into agreeing with him that voter fraud is an issue after they claimed it wasnât?
I think youâre also missing a major point. Itâs not about if any real cheating happens. Itâs about people questioning it like we are now. This is bad for the legitimacy of elections and the integrity of the ballot if we have to question it.
If one side loses and wonât admit it because they claim voter fraud thatâs an issue. We just saw the democrats spend 4 years not able to acknowledge how they lost when everyone and every polls says they had it in the bag. Hence the Russian conspiracies. I donât want the democrats or republicans using this the next four years. Itâs bad for everyone.
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Whoever wins, I will accept it and move on and continue to work to make the country better. Biden or Trump. Throwing this into the mix will really add fuel to the fire no matter who wins.
I do not want this. From either sides.
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Always love your points.
I canât imagine polls being that reliable if it relies on points from states and a secret election by party elites in December that selects the President.
Polls certainly accurately depicted her popular vote win, but it doesnât mean much anyways.
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