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The “stimulus battle”!?! Looks like Sanford was simply looking for more stimulus than he was supposed to have. [/quote]
Sanford should be commended for opposing the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the stimulus and for looking at Latin American natural resources, especially mountains, warm caverns, and other interesting topography. He’s stimulating foreign trade, and that is more than I can say for a lot of Dims.
I do wonder though if he believes in “Buy Argentina” provisions.
Shwooo… Thought you guys had missed this last one for a second, by damn if you’re not all over those storytelling, finger wagging, hypocritical Republican presidential hopefuls
You know what’s scary about this thread? The fact that it has over 4300 views and is only a few pages long. Check out the view to post ratio compared to other threads on actual substantial news. I get a sick feeling that some people just read this one over and over, just to get the nice hate-filled feeling. It’s really a lot like porn.
Two minutes hate. Some people just can’t get enough of it.
Don’t tell yourself that it’s okay to hate because you’re hating the enemy. Hate is hate is hate. You’ve got a lot in common with republicans who are obsessed with gay marriage and whatever else if you do it too often. Do you really want to be like them?
[quote=“Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer”]I get a sick feeling that some people just read this one over and over, just to get the nice hate-filled feeling. It’s really a lot like porn.
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No, you just idly click on the thread at the top of the new threads page and then realise you accidentally clicked on some daft Yankpolitik tardfest. It’s the absolute polar opposite of porn.
[quote=“Buttercup”][quote=“Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer”]I get a sick feeling that some people just read this one over and over, just to get the nice hate-filled feeling. It’s really a lot like porn.
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No, you just idly click on the thread at the top of the new threads page and then realise you accidentally clicked on some daft Yankpolitik tardfest. It’s the absolute polar opposite of porn.[/quote]
It’s a tardfest alright, I lost interest in a few seconds.
But it IS really strange that liberal minds living in taiwan get their panties all in a bunch thinking about news events that stick it to the family values, crowd, isn’t it? I think the "family values crowd in North America is pretty much a bygone era. Did you see Ellen Degeneres’ speech at SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY in the Deep South of the US where she made jokes about how all the graduates would later discover they were gay? And was greeted with laughter applause?
I think North America has changed a lot since many of us came out here. That’s why this thread is so weird.
[quote=“Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer”]. Did you see Ellen Degeneres’ speech at SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY in the Deep South of the US where she made jokes about how all the graduates would later discover they were gay? And was greeted with laughter applause?
I think North America has changed a lot since many of us came out here. That’s why this thread is so weird.[/quote]
People love to “diss” the South (particularly ignorant Europeans that have much less world knowledge than a typical Southerner), but it’s much more progressive on race relations these days than many of the ghetto-segregated cities of the North. Furthermore, even though most Americans are opposed to gay marriage (I support gay marriage BTW), you have to remember that a lot of people in South value good manners and patriotism.
When a lot of Northern Liberals were afraid to ‘take on’ Joe McCarthy, it was Southern Senators that took him on. They didn’t like Joe’s brash and uncouth manners. He wasn’t "gentlemanly’ in their sense of the word, and they didn’t like his attack on the military.
People love to characterize the South as being intolerant, but the Scots-Irish that inhabit large portions of the region are some of the most inclusive people on earth.
AMEN. These “moral absolutists” are reaping the whorl-wind of their of hypocrisy. What I wonder is when the Christian Right is gonna finally figure out that they are just a voting base for people whose agenda is far different from their own.
Here’s Mark Sanford, in his own words:
1998, on the Clinton scandal: [quote=“Mark Sanford”]I think it would be much better for the country and for Clinton personally to resign. I come from the business side. If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.[/quote]
2002 campaign ad: [quote=“Mark Sanford”]Jenny and I try our best to teach our four little boys Christian values, character and honesty. We’d like to think that those values apply to government too. And that starts with keeping your word. When I ran for congress, I said I’d support term limits, never take a dime from special interests, and not waste the tax-payers’ money. I kept those promises. South Carolina needs a return to real honest leadership in the governor’s office.[/quote]
John Ensign was worse:
[quote=“Steve Benen”]…Of far greater interest is Ensign’s hypocrisy. When Bill Clinton’s adultery came to public light, Ensign not only voted to remove the president from office, but insisted the president should resign as a result of the personal scandal. When former Sen. Larry Craig was caught up in a sex scandal, Ensign not only called for Craig’s ouster, but led the charge against him.
[b]Ensign has also been a fierce opponent of marriage equality, and supported a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. In 2004, the Nevada Republican lectured his colleagues, “Marriage is the cornerstone on which our society was founded. For those who say that the Constitution is so sacred that we cannot or should not adopt the Federal Marriage Amendment, I would simply point out that marriage, and the sanctity of that institution, predates the American Constitution and the founding of our nation.”[/b]
And did I mention that Ensign is a longtime member of the Promise Keepers, a conservative evangelical group that promotes strong families and marriages?
Few really care about Ensign’s private life. The story is relevant only insofar as the Republican lawmaker has spent much of his career touting “families values” and using his office to promote his version of sexual morality — with standards he doesn’t apply to himself.[/quote]
Here’s a direct, and laughable, quote from Ensign himself on the Larry Craig scandal:
I’m not even gonna get into Newt Gingrich. And please note that, as of now, NEITHER Mark Sanford NOR John Ensign has declared the intention to resign.
Lord Almighty. I wonder how Rush Limbaugh is spinning all of this. It’s only a matter of time before he gets caught on film cavorting with prostitutes in his beloved Dominican Republic anyway.
Unfortunately I’m an ignorant European but I have to agree with Chewycorns. I’ve never met anyone from the southern USA I didn’t like. They’re always very polite and good company. They are also the kind of guys who you know you’re in trouble with if they say something bad, because they really mean it. There’s very little snideness or bs to them.
South Africans are similar. Get a very bad press, but if you ever get to meet one of them they’re always top guys.
The Republican governor of Nevada, Jim Gibbons, is facing some tough times over his sexual assault of a waitress in Las Vegas. It’ll be interesting to see how this one works out.
By the way, Rush Limbaugh believes that Sanford’s sexual scandal isn’t Sanford’s problem – it’s all “because of Obama.” What a bunch of crybabies the Republicans have become, completely unable to take responsibility for a single damn thing. You can hear Limbaugh here:
I was away for a few days hiking in the mountains, and return to find that Mark Sanford was not hiking in the mountains. Instead, it turns out he’s yet another hypocritical “family-values” Republican who had called for Clinton’s resignation a decade ago for doing exactly what he’s doing now. :raspberry:
[quote=“tomthorne”]Unfortunately I’m an ignorant European but I have to agree with Chewycorns. I’ve never met anyone from the southern USA I didn’t like. They’re always very polite and good company. They are also the kind of guys who you know you’re in trouble with if they say something bad, because they really mean it. There’s very little snideness or bs to them.
South Africans are similar. Get a very bad press, but if you ever get to meet one of them they’re always top guys.[/quote]
Yeah I always thought that Bubba and Billie Ray were very polite boys. Give me a break! There are plenty dickheads coming out of the South AND South Africa as well. And there are some nice, polite, “patriotic” folks that walk out of them parts too. Patriotic doesn’t mean blindly following “leaders” and believing anything “American” is the best. And, always thought GW Bush would be an entertaining drunk to have a few brews with, “good company” though?
OK, thinking about it a little more I will accept that I probably haven’t come across the typical southern American or South African, simply because the typical types don’t leave their countries. I’ve probably only met the kind of people who want to leave.
Even so, during my long travels they have still been the best I’ve met. The worst? English and Canadians.
You know, this could be a very interesting book indeed. I wonder if John Edwards was primping his hair while shagging his mistress on this videotape. What an absolute disgrace of a former VP candidate.
At the end of the day, aside from the dereliction of duty and malfeasance, this, for me, would be a private matter. That is if it were not for the appalling hypocrisy of yet another social conservative saying one thing while doing another.
There are Democratic sex scandals to be sure, but Democrats didn’t build a franchise on holier-than-thou moral rectitude. The Republicans did. They used sexual morality as a weapon and now it’s shooting them in the foot. [/quote]
John Edwards - yawn
Chewey, see above, especially the last paragraph.
