I miss Taiwan

Where in the EU?

Lived in Italy (am Italian heritage) Cagliari (work), Verona (university), Naples (home/worked) and life is dead! salaries are low and young ppl have given up - all dream of escaping. Have you heard of the brain-drain? People with jobs work so much they rarely have time to socialise. Saturdays spent with friends and Sunday with the family - not easy to meet people. I love my home but living there is depressing… stick to holidays!

I’m starting to understand why Andrew isn’t a fan of this country. They seem very backwards in their social politics compared to Taiwan.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/03/07/asia/malaysia-tourism-minister-gay-denial-intl/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fedition.cnn.com%2F

I have a soft spot for it. It became big just as I was getting over my break-up with my ex-fiancée. So I played it on a loop for about two months.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq2QKo8n_5g

It is an Islamic country after all. I don’t think many Islamic countries would be promoting themselves as LGBTI-friendly.

Well… true.

There’s a big difference between saying “we love gay people” and saying “there are no gay people in our country”.

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Did your ears ever recover?

Still struggle with tinnitus to this day. :wink:

Well, it’s better than listening to all those yappy purse-dogs, so consider yourself lucky.

There are gay people. They just can’t be gay under penalty of law.

It’s always strange I find people like gain defend Islam. Ive lived with moderate Muslims and they seem nice enough until you ask them about how they feel about certain subjects like homosexuality. You’ll often find pretty disturbing answers if you really pick their minds.

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And their feelings on Jews.

Not all, but enough that it’s a serious societal problem.

You can’t believe the odious shit I hear on a near constant basis

Italian bureaucracy is pretty insane. I have to apply for basically for residency. So to do this, I can’t just go to one place. I must first go to a different building to get a tax ID, apply for Italian insurance online before I can fill the paperwork work out. Then with the paper work, I must buy a tax stamp of 16 euros at a store that sells them to stick on my application. Pay 30 euros at the post office for the actual application, pay 40 more euros at the post office for their administration fee to process the application. Oh and get this, I then pay 30 euros for them to ship my application to…the building next door.

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I am getting really worried for you now, after the Malaysia trip and now Italy.
you will be too old to get a job by the time you have finished with it all :thinking:

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Brilliant. Not sure how true it is but I once heard they have to interview every single person that applies for a state-funded position. So if they want to hire 2 janitors and there are 100 applicants they have to interview all 100 of them.

I don’t mind it in Italy as the food is good and I have help from her family to deal with most of the BS. It’s much better than Malaysia. But they could use 711

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Probably true. They have so many stupid regulations and policies and equally as many useless jobs for people to do them.

For example I also have to report to the police from some ancient law to declare I live with at my girls house as a foreigner.

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It’s no wonder they call Italy the Malaysia of Europe. At least you’ll deal with the food better.

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