I would very much like an alternative forum that was much more heavily regulated

Not joking exactly, but my agreement was mostly with the first part. (I notice that you don’t bother to respond to any of the rest of what I wrote, aside from trying to point out some perceived “hole in my story”, but anyway.)

I honestly don’t care all that much whether there’s a limit on how many posts/topics a user can create a day (especially as I don’t see this particular user’s posts) but, to answer your question, I would imagine that some limit would be preferable for keeping the site usable/relevant/interesting for everyone else.

I don’t know what that limit is. I think if a user was creating, say, 1000 topics a day, that would be too much. Would you agree with that, or not? How about 100 topics, or 10? How about 50 new topics a day about cryptocurrency or Viagra - is it still censorship or anti-free speech to remove those and limit posting from that user, or should every single post be allowed? Anyway, I think there’s some point where it becomes spam, drowns out other threads, and reduces the usefulness of the site for everyone else. I’m not saying that’s the case with him…but it appears to me that there is some practical limit. If you don’t think there’s any practical limit, fair enough (have you ever tried using forums like that?). If you do think some “censorship”/limiting of posts is okay, then we’re just talking about where the boundary lies.

Again, I don’t especially care how much he posts because I don’t see his posts. I’m not offended by him, but just see him in a similar way as I see an old man shouting nonsensical stuff in the street and his posts as flyers and other garbage that comes through my mailbox - it’s just that the site gives me a less-effort option for ignoring him than tuning out noise in the street or removing junk from my mailbox, so I use it.

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Actually this place is modded way too much already. Half of my replies to Gain have been censored by the mods!!

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Would that person’s name begin with ‘row’ and end in ‘land’? :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

to me this is the biggest problem. some users are notorious for using tabloid or Twitter “sources”. it makes it virtually impossible to debate as they’re often fake or at best very misleading

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As I made explicitly clear in my original comment, I’m not interested in comments being removed because I disagree with them but because they are harmful. Whether that is because they are insanely inaccurate or actively encourage aggression towards others.

It’s not free actually. It costs a lot of time to rebuke nonsense.

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Yes because that’s exactly what I said right?
How does one confuse expressing a desire with demanding someone do something personally for me?

That sounds like it’s because you disagree with them. Posts that advocate for violence and harm are against the rules and are moderated.

How about you quote an example of a post that causes harm and advocates for violence. it shouldn’t be that hard if you’ve seem so many to make this thread. I’m interested in what that may be.

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Words aren’t harmful IMO unless you are attacking a person or a group. Inaccurate or ‘hurtful’ posts shouldn’t be moderated otherwise you’ll get a groupthink site like Reddit. Disagree and move on.

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Well I’m glad somebody understands.

There are many people in this thread trying to demonize me as someone who wants to remove everything I personally disagree with for merely suggesting that I would like a different forum that wasn’t so inundated with conspiracy theories. Most of those didn’t actually read what I said and every single one of them knows nothing about me.

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You have to understand that in a Taiwanese expat community forum, there’s a big distrust of censorship of ideas and information from the situation with China. It’s something Taiwan is actively resisting.

Could you give us an specific example so we understand your gripe with harmful posts?

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There’s at least like 3 way exaggerated/misleading statements there. I find this both harmful to the harmony of the forum and personally hurtful. Please be nice - this is the Internet. :roll_eyes:

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Tbf, there is 1 thread for conspiracy theories and 1 Epstein one that goes into some conspiracy theories.

But I think most posters go into it understanding that they are just that. Even though it’s blatantly obvious to on me That Epstein didn’t kill himself. But I don’t think it’s harming anyone to believe that.

I will not be continuing with this thread.
It was not my thread to begin with. If people want to overreact to somebody’s preference that’s totally up to them. But the fact that so many cannot understand how ideas can be harmful and lead to harmful behaviors blows my mind into a million pieces.

It’s literal spamming of disinformation and propaganda.

Then the line comes out…“I dunno if it’s true or not, I just saw it online so maybe it is”.

Disinformation spreading is harmful to society.

I wouldn’t say censor it, but people posting rando tweets as a source consistently should be called out.

As should the patterns of thread spamming/bumping/creating that are quite obvious for some time, in these parts.

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I’ve read every comment on this thread and those are facts.

But the Epstein thing is like the bottom rung of the conspiracy theory ladder - that might not even count!

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Well depending on where you are coming from Spygate, Obamagate, pizzagate, planned parenthood sells baby parts, masks dont work - those are all examples of conspiracy theories IMO.

How do they cause harm?

Masks don’t work - people don’t wear them and infections spread

Pizzagate - some dude actually shot up a pizza parlor

Planned parenthood - some dude actually shot up a planned parenthood

Conspiracy theories can cause real harm. If you don’t think Epstein didn’t kill himself will cause harm, maybe you’re right, but if the theory was so and so did kill him then it gets dangerous.

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Well then we disagree about the facts. I think I’m right, you think you’re right, and therein lies the problem with one of us wanting to heavily regulate what’s discussed according to our own opinions.

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And I asked which comments are harmful and in what way are they harmful?

You’re telling me. There’s like 55 responses to muck through just this morning.

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