The Bidens aren’t helicoptering over a grown ass Hunter Biden or feeling “in debt” to people who went into a joint venture with Hunter. You might be thinking about those families portrayed in typical Taiwanese soaps.
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Is there a thread about this? I could go for some of that discussion. There are alternatives
What does this even mean? Do you honestly believe a sitting US president would jeopardize national security over…
Much of what you write is meaningless. English words strung together in sentences which are pure gibberish. A “joint US-China…” what does it mean?
Why is anyone feeding these silly “arguments”?
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Either way, Biden and China are political allies.[quote=“Southernboy, post:189, topic:59921”]
Do you honestly believe a sitting US president would jeopardize national security over…
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Well it’s debatable whether another US-China joint Communique placing Taiwan firmly in China’s sphere necessarily means jeopardizing US national security. For example Obama didn’t think China’s annexing and militarizing the South China Sea was a threat at all. Obama actually thought North Korea was a bigger threat and he needed China’s help in that regard.
Most Of Biden’s supporters think Climate Change poses a greater threat to US than Chinese Communist.
If you ask Jeff Bezos and Zukerberg they actually think China is a force for good… I think if you ask them honestly they will tell you they have no qualms about China annexing Taiwan.
And they have a lot of power.
prove it
no, Xi promised not to millitarize the islands, but lied. Most consider Obama to have been weak and soft on China.
Really, you’ve talked to them. Two of the largest companies on the planet but are unable to access the China market.
Again, back this up with a little proof.
I have a few questions for you sofun, are you working off a script? Are you employed by the government of China? You’re spreading some very serious disinformation trying to destroy faith in Taiwan’s allies.
Just to counter the unicorn arguments, Google (1) “Zuckerberg on china” followed by (2) “Bezos on China”. Both are anti-China hawks.
And I’m done. I know your type, mucho lies and the need to get the last word. I’ve met you on reddit, 50c.
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Uyghur is irrelevant in this context because “human rights” violations or the condemnation thereof actually do not affect US-China relations in geopolitical terms. The Uyghur issue is merely China’s secondary bargaining chips.
Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, and the Democrats do not stop praising China as a strategic partner just because China jails or tortures a few political dissidents. Remember you need China for North Korea and Climate Change? Remember the Left needs China for consuming Hollywood and NBA? You need China to demonstrate the efficiency of a non-white socialist model to serve as a motivation to hasten social changes, remember?
I have great sympathy for the Uyghur cause but they are hardly a priority for the Democratic camp. China would certainly agree to go easy on the Uyghur, that’s not a problem at all if US reiterates One-China and issues “no support for Taiwan independence” again.
This isn’t a completely useless statement, though much of the rest is predictably… dubious…
Me too, it is a shame they are not a priority for anyone. Very friendly people
Well, perhaps to the Antifa BLM types of Democrats, social justice / identity politics are more important than Climate Change. I grant you that.
But to the high income, high net worth types, Climate Change ranks top one. They have no real interest in defunding the police or preaching white privilege white guilt. They want to talk about Climate Change you see?
As you climb up to the uber-rich level (in excess of hundred million dollars), they want to talk how to make money with China. You know, like LeBron and Zuckerberg
All of these headlines are from this year. Much of what you’re saying is pure lies.
Mark Zuckerberg warns about China’s ‘dangerous’ approach …
Zuckerberg recognizes the China tech threat;
Mark Zuckerberg ‘worried’ about China’s influence on internet .
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Zuckerberg under attack for showing true face of US capitalism
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Chinese netizens think Mark Zuckerberg betrayed China
Facebook’s Zuckerberg is right about TikTok and China
Zuckerberg warns against spread of Chinese-style internet
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg worried about China’s
Zuckerberg warns of China threat if US blocks Libra
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FYI, opinions are not proof.
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As far as I’m concerned, Eat Turkestan, Tibet, Taiwan are all the same issue. You can’t say one is more important than the other. As soon as you say that, you begin alienating people who would otherwise be on your side.
Imagine what it would feel like if some proponent of Tibetan cause claims that we could give Taiwan to China to enhance the Tibetan cause? I’ve actually heard that said to my Taiwanese face.
That said, it is too late in the game for Tibet and East Turkestan. The CCP established actual control there for a long time. However, they are perfect examples of what would happen if China takes over Taiwan.
The CCP uses Tibet to sustain their nuclear program, and uses East Turkestan to secure their land-based expansion into Central Asia.
I just don’t buy into the conspiracies that Joe Biden would act against American interest because he is a China lover. From what I can see, the Bidens are patriots first.
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Sure you can, Taiwan is much more important than the other two. I’m saying it.
With PLA on Taiwan, the USN can’t sail through the TW Straits. Okinawa and Guam come under pressure. It means ceding the SCS to China, essentially kicking the US out of Asia.
For Japan, there would be a serious risk of being blockaded by China in the future.
Tibet is simply about water security. The other, a land route to the EU markets.
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Not simply, but also yes
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Actions speak louder than words. Again, his picks for secretary of defense and CIA director are pretty telling, especially since a China hawk (Michèle Flournoy) was originally pegged by many to be the favorite for the secretary of defense position.
Human Rights, however you talk about it, however you analyze and criticize it, this issue has no effect on diminishing China’s national power nor hampering China’s infiltration.
No effect whatsoever on actual financial, economic, military and political affairs.
What you have is a lot of activisms and journalists doing a lot of writing and reading, but that’s about it. At the most, a handful of dissidents will be allow to seek asylum in US, and China does mind anyway.
You never escape the confine of cultural establishment - media, marketing, entertainment, academia, which ironically is in intimate business relations with China. And they follow China’s guidelines.
That’s how useless talking about the human rights issues are. For example Jeff Bezos has no qualms about relying on his Chinese suppliers to flood US with lowest-cost Chinese goods.
No money is ever loss, no business deal is ever called off, no power is ever diminished by Human Rights.
You listed a lot of PR pieces but actually, Zukerberg went to China to beg the Communist for permission to have a market inside Chinese firewall.
Again, Human Rights never hurt the CCP in concrete terms. Did Human Rights stop Biden from flying Hunter with him to Beijing to receive a 50% stake in a Chinese SOE ? No.
Human Rights did not stop Zukerberg from wanting to accumulate financial gain THROUGH China. (China did not give Zukerberg that benefit because China didn’t have to. )
Those activism and journalism are important when push comes to shove and major interference by the US and other Western powers is needed. Without actually genuinely caring about human rights of all affected by the CCP, why would you expect the people of the US or other Europeans countries to care? You can’t wage war without support from the public.
That’s certainly been the policy for Taiwanese investment in China.
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Yes Human Rights is irrelevant even in the context of Taiwan’s attitude toward China, whether officially or in the private sector.
The Human Rights situations in the Philippines and Vietnam are not exactly stellar but that doesn’t stop Taiwan or US from vying for their support.
The determining factor is military and political intentions from one state toward another, manifested by territorial ambition or coercive measures.
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