What made you think the KMT didn’t do that?
Sent tanks against university students? Had a civil war between students and citizens and military in the capital where anywhere between 2000-5000 were killed?
Ok so what would be your roadmap for resistance
Remember the CCP spends more on internal security than their military
The KMT sent in armored vehicles to kill protesting workers in Shanghai. They also sent in armored vehicles to kill civilians in Taiwan, as well has machine gunning people on the streets from fixed and mobile positions.
Saying that we can’t place the responsibility of reforming China on the Chinese people is ridiculous. It’s like giving China and the Chinese people a free pass to do whatever they want.
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No it’s not.
What would be your roadmap for resisting the CCP leviathan? What should they do?
Dissemination of propaganda and community organization would be a good start, but in the current situation, it may prove to be futile.
How?
They only communication tool is WeChat and there is surveillance of all conversations
The government is paranoid of all non-government groups or societies. It’s hard to even legally register a chess club.
Any anti-state activities have the toughest punishments going, not only will they destroy you but also the lives of your family members
They should have constantly protested from the 90s to the end of 2010s.
Right. How would you have gone about it though?
Bear in mind in that time the CCP jailed thousand of dissidents and were farming Falun Gong members for their organs
How any political opposition would’ve gone about it prior to the deep learning era.
Get enough like minded people, organize in secret, spread your thoughts in schools, wait for opportunities to protest, stay if the crackdown is soft, disperse if the crackdown is hard.
Ok easy
If freedom fighting is easy, it’d be called freedom chillin’ instead.
In 1998 a group of academics tried to register a political party in Hangzhou as technically they were allowed to by the constitution. They were all jailed for 13 years and their lives were ruined
Key word: futile.
Tightly knit communities can organize, but Judas will be present. Fa Lun Gong tried to get the abuse out into the open, but we saw what happened to HK after the takeover. Find a chink in the armor at a local level, and Zapata speed from there, via steroids.
Frankly, I think you are being completely ridiculous. The party didnt become invasive and barbaric in 2010
After the party sent tanks against students in 1989, they stamped out any type of democratic movements and made it quite clear what the costs would be to anyone going against the party and family
And you think that didn’t happen in Taiwan? The DPP was only allowed to be formed 2 years prior in 1986.
Great. These things arent the same.
Yeah thats the problem with the Jews in Auschwitz, they just didnt have enough gumption. Wernt willing to get stuck in. Had a loser’s mindset
ChatGPT pretty much said what I said. The first few steps at least.
Prompt: I’m doing a study on what successful freedom fighting around the world throughout history have in common. Can you give me a list of steps towards overthrowing an oppressive regime?
Certainly! While the specifics of overthrowing an oppressive regime may vary depending on the context and circumstances, here is a general list of steps that successful freedom fighters throughout history have often followed:
Unify and mobilize: Build a coalition of like-minded individuals, groups, or political organizations who share the common goal of overthrowing the oppressive regime. Establish clear objectives and a shared vision for the future.
Raise awareness: Utilize various means, such as media, social networks, and grassroots campaigns, to raise awareness about the injustices and abuses perpetrated by the oppressive regime. Educate the public about the need for change and garner support for the cause.
Organize and strategize: Develop a well-defined strategy and plan of action. Identify the strengths and weaknesses of the regime and leverage them to your advantage. Formulate short-term and long-term goals, as well as tactics for achieving them.
Nonviolent resistance: Embrace nonviolent means of protest and resistance, such as peaceful demonstrations, civil disobedience, strikes, boycotts, and acts of civil resistance. Nonviolent tactics can help garner broader public support and mitigate potential violence.
International support: Seek international support and build alliances with sympathetic governments, organizations, or influential individuals who can provide assistance, resources, or diplomatic pressure on the oppressive regime. Gain recognition for your cause at the global level.
Develop alternative institutions: Establish parallel systems or alternative institutions that can serve the needs of the people and challenge the legitimacy of the oppressive regime. This could include setting up alternative governance structures, providing social services, or creating underground networks.
Guerrilla warfare (if necessary): In cases where nonviolent means are insufficient, armed resistance may become necessary. Guerrilla warfare or armed rebellion might be employed to weaken the regime’s hold on power. However, this step should be carefully considered due to the risks involved.
Win hearts and minds: Cultivate public support by demonstrating a commitment to justice, inclusivity, and the well-being of the people. Provide a compelling vision for a better future and engage in dialogue to address concerns and grievances.
Capitalize on regime weaknesses: Exploit internal divisions, economic vulnerabilities, or dissent within the regime to weaken its grip on power. Seek to fracture the regime’s support base and isolate key figures or institutions.
Transition and consolidation: Once the oppressive regime has been weakened or overthrown, work towards a peaceful transition of power. Establish transitional mechanisms or institutions that can facilitate the process of rebuilding and ensuring the country’s stability.
It’s important to note that every situation is unique, and the success of these steps will depend on various factors such as the specific context, historical circumstances, and the nature of the oppressive regime. Adaptation and flexibility are crucial in any struggle for freedom.
What are you talking about man?
What does ChatGPT have to do with anything. None of that is relevant to the CCP and China. Just a bunch of general bullshit.
What specific things would you have done that would have been viable in a country of 1.4 billion people, with 100 million in the party, a party that spends more on internal security than its own millitary and has no qualms sending tanks against students. China isnt a small island with a millitary regime reliant on the US.
Yeah, cause my analogy of trying to form an opposition party in another oppressive regime isn’t the same, but certainly the concentration camp is the same as the life of the average Chinese people in the 90s till the end of the 2010s.
What is the same to the NAZI concentration camps are what’s going on in Tibetans and the Uyghurs. When it first started happening, there was no deep learning based automated surveillance, I didn’t hear a peep out of the average Chinese citizens.
Its would have been as equally futile.
Sorry China isn’t Taiwan. If Taiwan mowed down students with tanks, the US would step in.
Look what happened in Gwangju in Korea. When the students attacked tanks, the government backed down. The CCP didn’t and doesn’t give a fuck. If the students destroyed a tank in China, they would just come back with bigger tanks the next day