Hey, nobody’s saying that it’s wrong to let kids play dress-up. That’s a natural part of childplay. I think we can all agree that it is wrong to impose sexual attitudes and behaviour on kids, though, right? Kiddy beauty pageants with high heels, expertly applied make-up, and swimsuit competitions just don’t seem to be healthy things. Call me old-fashioned. Maybe this portion of the discussion should be split and moved to the parenting forum. I’m not a parent (yet), but I wouldn’t dream of allowing my kid in one of those competitions. Am I out of touch?[/quote]
I wouldn’t do it either, anymore than I will let my wife dress my son in a silly bunny suit or pose in a kiddie magazine as a model. I also don’t like competition sports or pushing a kid to strive for being “#1” or “Top of the class”…best, famous, smartest etc.
However I don’t think parents should have “part of the blame” put on their childs’ murder for doing such a thing. As someone has already pointed out above—it happens to very usual looking kids as well,…boys and girls. I would guess most of the kids are just usual looking like in this missing children’s website for example: http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/BannerServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US
It’s one thing dressing your 7 year old daughter up in traditional Chinese formal wear for a posed shot on camera, and another dressing you 7 year old daughter up to look like a complete slut. Image is everything.
Personally, I think that any parent who lets their daughter dress up like an over-sexed teenage girl needs their head seeing to. Sure, you have the freedom to do what you like, but I have the freedom to frown upon it and tell you you’re an irresponsible clown.
It’s one thing dressing your 7 year old daughter up in traditional Chinese formal wear for a posed shot on camera, and another dressing you 7 year old daughter up to look like a slut.[/quote]
She wasn’t dressed and made up for a photoshot…she was simply dressed and wandering around. I took the photo. Had I tried that in the US or Europe I probably would have been arrested as a pedophile. I was screamed at by a mother when I tried to snap a shot of a child in a part in the US 13 years ago. I suggest you read up on what has been happening to photographers in the US, the UK and Australia. Read the News Forum at dpreview.com
Did you know that parents have been banned from filming their childrens’ nativity plays at school in some parts of the UK? This is because schools worry that the tapes may end up in the wrong hands. Personally I think the media is largely to blame; the possibility of abuse from paedophiles has always been there, but the newspapers blow it all out of proportion today.
All you need to do now is look on the streets. Where are the kids?
I used to climb trees, swim in the canal and ride my bike around when I was little. Nowadays parents are too scared to let their kids to go out play.
Did you know that parents have been banned from filming their childrens’ nativity plays at school in some parts of the UK? This is because schools worry that the tapes may end up in the wrong hands. Personally I think the media is largely to blame; the possibility of abuse from paedophiles has always been there, but the newspapers blow it all out of proportion today.
All you need to do now is look on the streets. Where are the kids?[/quote]
Agreed. The paranoia level is incredible. Photographers are being run in by the police for simply taking photos at parks and beaches. :fume:
My cousin and I built a rocket when we were about 8 years old…burned several acres of hay…as well as all the hair on his head along with his eyebrows and eyelashes. Grandma beat the hell out of us.
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I used to climb trees, swim in the canal and ride my bike around when I was little. Nowadays parents are too scared to let their kids to go out play. [/quote]
Does that mean it was less dangerous? Is freedom of information a bad thing? Are there more kiddie fiddlers about now? Most of the ones I see in the papers are men in their 50’s and 60’s which means they would have been active when you were a kid. What about Jonathon King and his mates? The info might be ugly, but its vital.
What is a shame is the way we have handled the information we have.
In the UK you must ask a persons permission before you take their picture.
Aside: Tom’s opinion… Pedo’s have mental health issues which impact in a disastrous way on society. Pedo’s usually see little to nothing wrong with their behaviour. For that reason they should be institutionalized for life. And castrated.
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I used to climb trees, swim in the canal and ride my bike around when I was little. Nowadays parents are too scared to let their kids to go out play. [/quote]
Does that mean it was less dangerous? Is freedom of information a bad thing? Are there more kiddie fiddlers about now? Most of the ones I see in the papers are men in their 50’s and 60’s which means they would have been active when you were a kid. What about Jonathon King and his mates? The info might be ugly, but its vital.
What is a shame is the way we have handled the information we have.[/quote]
30 years ago pedophiles didn’t have their own political parties and advocacy groups.
So…if I’m is taking a photos of a street scene with people walking about…I need a models release? For each and everyone? Does Princess Diana know this?
So…if I’m is taking a photos of a street scene with people walking about…I need a models release? For each and everyone? Does Princess Diana know this?[/quote]
Yes, you do. If you took a picture and I was in it, and you didn’t ask permission, I’d be within my rights to demand the picture be destroyed. Crazy innit! And if you stuck my picture on t’internet without permission, I could sue you! Apparently.
So, don’t go taking pictures of your kid playing footy in the park.
No, of course not. But it does mean that kids are mollycoddles and denied the chance to develop important social skills, excercise and do the things you should do when you’re a kid.
I got hurt loads when I was a kid. I always had grazes on my knees and elbows and you learn important lessons from getting hurt and knowing your own limits.
It depends on how you interpret the information.
I don’t think so. But the way the newspapers report Paedophiles and the actions thereof through means of exaggeration have made society more paranoid than ever before.
I think the amount of Paedophiles is roughly the same,
One thing about freedom of information though: you could never dowload kiddie pics from the internet 15 years ago.
It is alleged that after the destruction of Apartheid, South Africa designed “one of the most democratic constitution in the world”. However, the same constitution also affords criminals (including paedophiles) more rights inside prison. I think that the entire world has become too democratic, and as such: I maintain that too much democracy is not a good thing!
that quote made me laugh. Nice and straight to the point. trouble is if you went to Chung King mansions in Hong kong then how many would you need to arrest in that place. Where do freaks hang out in Taipei anyway ?
The man who claims he killed JonBenet Ramsey wants Johnny Depp to play him in a movie.
Former teacher John Mark Karr also believes the film about the murder of the Colorado beauty queen would make “a billion dollars”.
The bizarre claims came from Karr during a series of email and phone conversations with Michael Tracey, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado, in Boulder.
Karr, 41, was extradited to the US earlier this month after confessing to JonBenet’s murder.
He was charged with the killing, however, police - who now believe Karr was at home with his family at the time of the fatal attack - later dropped the charges after DNA samples from the suspect and the crime scene didn’t match.
Karr was then rearrested for child pornography charges dating back to 2001.
Johnny Depp’s spokespeople have yet to comment on Karr’s wish.[/quote]
Democracy is just mob rule. Some of you gad dam Umuricuns (heh heh, that’ll get them rippin’) don’t know what a republic is.
“Democracy” would soon do away with the first, second, and 14th amendments.
14th Amendment: No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
“Fuck that shit!” they would say. Hang the bastards from the nearest tree!
America is a republic set up by very wise and clever men and just because it may be run by a bunch of hoop heads at the moment doesn’t mean you just set about the constitution with a hatchet. And that goes for the goddam liberal fairies as well! You guys are in danger of namby-pambying yourselves into an early grave.
