John Karr was also in Taiwan!

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Two weeks ago, family commitments necessitated my return to South Africa. For those in the know it also forced upon me SA’s slow dial-up internet service. (ADSL is still prohibitively expensive.)
While I knew about the JonBenet/John Karr story from CNN et al. I have just found out that my daughter’s elementary school had, at the beginning of last semester, interviewed a foreign English teacher from America, one John Karr. My wife just happens to be the head-teacher at the school and when I showed her the picture of John Karr, her mouth was agape!
I also noticed that Forumosa is currently discussing the issue of the “Image of teachers in Asia”
See: forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.ph … b88d335368

I personally doubt that Chinese parents will be perturbed by the fact that a criminal like John Karr tried to find employment in Taiwan. I say this because I have worked with some, shall we say “rather dodgy characters” in Taiwan and they all got away with it. John Karr had, after all, the “requisites” to be a foreign teacher in Taiwan: fair skin, blue eyes, and American. However, I am both a teacher and a parent of 2 children in Taiwan and I am well and truly abhorred by this news!

In my oppinion, only the government of Taiwan can improve the image of foreign teachers in Taiwan, by being a little more circumspect about who is allowed to teach in Taiwan. But that’s asking too much… it has never, and will never happen.

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I read somewhere that he was in Taiwan for 2 months. I wonder what he did during that period and if he stayed in a hostel. I’m expecting soon there will be more info.

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But that wasn’t because she thought it was Brad Pitt though, was it?

HG

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Don’t get too excited about it and don’t call him a criminal (yet) either. I haven’t been following the case very closely, but isn’t there a serious possibility that he’s just some nutcase confessing to the crime because he developed a fixation with her and the case and wants attention? You know lots of nutters do that – confess to crimes they haven’t committed.

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:astonished: EEEWWWW, that creeps me out!

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Nothing surprises me anymore … and I’m not fixated about the guy having been in Taiwan.

Many years ago, 30 or so … one of my better friends, same school and boyscout member killed several girls and women, cut of there female sex parts kept some in his house and ate some of it … I mean man at that very moment you are so stunt about how could he … I mean you know the guy for so many years, having beers together, playing and having fun and than you find out he did this kind of stuff … :s he was a psycho, but it didn’t show

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Yeah, I worked with a guy here who went to Australia, got a g/f, fell out with her, went to her house and rang her doorbell, then poured petrol over her and himself and struck a lighter. He’s doing 25 years now, I believe, horribly disfigured, as is the girl.
And HE went to school with Ewan McGregor, for heaven’s sake! Nothing is sacred, I’m telling you!

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I still believe there’s a serious possibility Karr’s not guilty, but this case certainly has provoked a tabloid media frenzy (again), with all sorts of witnesses getting their 15 minutes of fame by showing up and offering lurid accounts, many of which are totally uncorroborated, but make for a good, sleazy news story.

[quote]Quientana Ray was just 12 years old when she met John Mark Karr, the 41-year-old man under arrest for the 1996 murder of JonBenet Ramsey. Within a year, against her parents wishes, she and Karr, then 19, were married. . .

“I was drugged and things were done to me without me having any idea,” said Ray. . .[/quote]

Incidentally, she’s a hottie today.

[quote]Karr later married a second time, to Lara Karr, who was 16 when their twin daughters died the day they were born on Sept. 1, 1989. . .

Ray’s parents said they discovered letters Karr wrote to their daughter that were signed “S.B.T.C.” – the same initials found on a ransom note left in the Ramseys’ home.
[/quote]
abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sectio … id=4488450

[quote]The suspect in the killing of JonBenet Ramsey visited a clinic to have facial hair removed permanently because he wanted a sex-change operation, a doctor said Monday.

John Mark Karr had his sideburns and hair under his chin removed with lasers at the Siam Swan Cosmetic Clinic and its branches in downtown Bangkok during four sessions from March to July, said Dr. Setthakarn Attakonpan.

“He wanted to prepare himself to do a sex-change operation,” said Setthakarn, a dermatologist[/quote]

He does look fairly girly; definite sex-change candidate.

[quote]A family friend tells ABC News Karr’s mother tried killing him as an infant, saying Patricia Adcock basically tried setting him on fire. . .

In a shocking statement 76-year-old George McCrary says when John Karr was an infant, his mother Patricia, “Made a big round donut [of kindling] and put him in the middle of it.”

Adding she boxed him inside, until his older brother ran in before it caught fire.

He says Patricia was later committed to a mental institution. [/quote]
waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5314275&nav=0hBE

[quote]A notorious prank caller and Howard Stern fan . . . was interviewed about the Ramsey case.

In a live phone interview Tuesday with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Thomas Cipriano pretended to be Wendy Hutchens, a California woman claiming that five years ago she had detailed chats about the death of JonBenet Ramsey with murder suspect John Mark Karr, the New York Daily News reported Thursday.

“Wendy Hutchens is joining us on the phone right now,” Blitzer told viewers. “Wendy, thanks very much for doing this. Tell our viewers how you got involved with John Mark Karr.” The fake Wendy then proceeded to explain that she met Karr through a relative.

“So then what happened after that?” Blitzer pressed. “When did the e-mail, when did the talk of JonBenet Ramsey begin?” The fake Wendy replied, “It started around September of 2001, when he told me that he knew more about the JonBenet Ramsey case than what anybody else had known – and that he was instructed to kill JonBenet by Howard Stern.” [/quote]
upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?S … 1213-5548r

I don’t know what to believe, but seems like everyone’s having a jolly old time with this story. I haven’t had so much fun since the OJ trial.

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The world likes freaks to look like, well, freaks.

HG

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Interesting to see that US Marshalls escort prisoners in business class. Only proper of course. He is innocent until proven guilty and why the hell should he travel in cattle class? He’s on official US government business. Will they fly him back if he’s acquitted?

Apparently he crushed his tin of beer with his bare hands on the plane when he had finished it. I hope Homeland Security are taking note. This guy could be very dangerous.

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[quote=“Lord Lucan”]Interesting to see that US Marshalls escort prisoners in business class. Only proper of course. He is innocent until proven guilty and why the hell should he travel in cattle class? He’s on official US government business. Will they fly him back if he’s acquitted?

Apparently he crushed his tin of beer with his bare hands on the plane when he had finished it. I hope Homeland Security are taking note. This guy could be very dangerous.[/quote]

Maybe he’s full into recycling, saving space in the recycle bin …

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[quote=“belgian pie”][quote=“Lord Lucan”]Interesting to see that US Marshalls escort prisoners in business class. Only proper of course. He is innocent until proven guilty and why the hell should he travel in cattle class? He’s on official US government business. Will they fly him back if he’s acquitted?

Apparently he crushed his tin of beer with his bare hands on the plane when he had finished it. I hope Homeland Security are taking note. This guy could be very dangerous.[/quote]

Maybe he’s full into recycling, saving space in the recycle bin …[/quote]

Maybe he was pissed off because Thai didn’t give him a big enough glass for his entire beverage, spoiling an otherwise immaculately laid table with an ugly Heineken tin. I hope he has written a strong letter of complaint and asked for his mone… never mind.

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I can crush a beer can with my bare hands. No big deal.

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I like where this thread is going. Funny. Keep it up :slight_smile:

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I’ve seen The Chief open a bottle of beer with his teeth. Seriously. :noway:

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I’ve seen The Chief open a bottle of beer with his teeth. Seriously. :noway:[/quote]
Buttock crack. You’ve seen nowt till you’ve seen him using his buttcrack.

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I’ve seen The Chief open a bottle of beer with his teeth. Seriously. :noway:[/quote]
Buttock crack. You’ve seen nowt till you’ve seen him using his buttcrack.[/quote]

I’ve seen John Karr stick a beer bottle up his buttock crack, but the bottle was already opened.*

  • And if you want me to testify about it on Good Morning America, I’ll be happy to do so.
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I’ve seen The Chief open a bottle of beer with his teeth. Seriously. :noway:[/quote]
Buttock crack. You’ve seen nowt till you’ve seen him using his buttcrack.[/quote]

I’ve seen John Karr stick a beer bottle up his buttock crack, but the bottle was already opened.*

  • And if you want me to testify about it on Good Morning America, I’ll be happy to do so.[/quote]

Media slut!

HG

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[quote]
Ramsey Suspect Won’t Be Charged in Killing

BOULDER, Colo., Aug. 28 — The district attorney’s office in Boulder, Colo., decided today not to file criminal charges against John Mark Karr in the killing of the child beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey because his DNA did not match the evidence found at the scene of her death 10 years ago.

Mr. Karr had been to make his first court appearance in Boulder this afternoon after he was arrested in Thailand on Aug. 16 and extradited last week to Colorado, by way of Los Angeles. He had not been charged in the killing.

That hearing was canceled, and the Boulder County district attorney, Mary Lacy, said this afternoon that the case against Mr. Karr had been dropped “because no evidence has developed other than his own repeated admission to place Mr. Karr at the scene of the crime and in particular because his DNA does not match that found in the victim’s blood in her underwear.”

As such, she said, “the people would not be able to establish that Mr. Karr committed this crime, despite his repeated insistence that he did.’’

Shortly before Ms. Lacy issued her statement, Mr. Karr’s lawyer at the Boulder County public defender’s office, Seth Temin, emerged from the jail where his client was being held and said t no charges would be filed.

"They are not proceeding with this case,’’ Mr. Temin said. “We are deeply distressed by the fact that they took this man and dragged him here from Bangkok, Thailand, with no forensic evidence confirming the allegations against him and no supporting factors leading to a presumption that he did anything wrong.’’

. . . Mr. Karr is a former school teacher whose family has said he was obsessed with the murders of several young girls, including JonBenet and Polly Klass, who was abducted in 1993 by a man named Richard Allen Davis, who later killed her . . . Several of Mr. Karr’s family members, including his ex-wife, said he was with them that Christmas when JonBenet was killed.

. . . Even the district attorney . . . cautioned . . .

“Do not jump to judgment. Do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course.’’ [/quote]
nytimes.com/2006/08/28/us/28 … r=homepage

Oh, well. It was fun while it lasted.

Actually, though, I KNOW who the real killer is. It happens to be a regular poster on forumosa, but forum rules prevent me from outing her/him, so I’ll have to keep it confidential.

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anybosdy here ever read 'crime and punishment"?