Keep getting "friend zoned"

Life Dating & Relationships
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[quote=“Hokwongwei”][quote=“Taipei2013”]And how to avoid being friend zoned, when getting a girls number go for a kiss. Even if she doesn’t give u one back she knows your not interested in hanging out “as friends”.

Simple as that. She will play tango or simply reject you.[/quote]

That totally depends on where you meet the girl. That may work for someone you meet in a night club, but if you meet a girl at, say, a book store, that’s pretty inappropriate.[/quote]

then you can just kiss her on the cheek and then oops accidentally kiss her close to the lips, but not quite while you run your fingers through her hair or down her neck.

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[quote=“Taipei2013”][quote=“tommy525”]Just remember beauty is skin deep. Usually the more beautiful the more problems.

I used to go for 9s , now I like 7s :stuck_out_tongue:

they are less problematic. (I think i still got a 9 anyways but I was willing to go 7s).[/quote]

The more beautiful the more entitled, you are correct. Unless the girl was raised by PROPER parents. Its all about raising the kids right.

Girls who live in Xinyi who I’ve met here are quite independent and don’t display any of that nasty entitlement the other girls from “poorer areas” seem to display.

And how to avoid being friend zoned, when getting a girls number go for a kiss. Even if she doesn’t give u one back she knows your not interested in hanging out “as friends”.

Simple as that. She will play tango or simply reject you.[/quote]

Terrible advice. Most sane women would run a mile.

Get the number, continue chatting for a minute, then call after 5-9 days, if she agrees to a date, don’t do thurs-sat, meet up for around 30 minutes and leave. You will know within that time if she is suitable for another date. No texting or FB bullshit or even calling unless to set up another date. Make the dates fun and no heavy subjects. You need to be a challenge to the women for her to show interest as green 89 demonstrated with the example he typed.

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[quote=“cake”][quote=“Taipei2013”][quote=“tommy525”]Just remember beauty is skin deep. Usually the more beautiful the more problems.

I used to go for 9s , now I like 7s :stuck_out_tongue:

they are less problematic. (I think i still got a 9 anyways but I was willing to go 7s).[/quote]

The more beautiful the more entitled, you are correct. Unless the girl was raised by PROPER parents. Its all about raising the kids right.

Girls who live in Xinyi who I’ve met here are quite independent and don’t display any of that nasty entitlement the other girls from “poorer areas” seem to display.

And how to avoid being friend zoned, when getting a girls number go for a kiss. Even if she doesn’t give u one back she knows your not interested in hanging out “as friends”.

Simple as that. She will play tango or simply reject you.[/quote]

Terrible advice. Most sane women would run a mile.

Get the number, continue chatting for a minute, then call after 5-9 days, if she agrees to a date, don’t do thurs-sat, meet up for around 30 minutes and leave. You will know within that time if she is suitable for another date. No texting or FB bullshit or even calling unless to set up another date. Make the dates fun and no heavy subjects. You need to be a challenge to the women for her to show interest as green 89 demonstrated with the example he typed.[/quote]

LOL. Is this a troll post? Call after 5-9 days? What.

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5-9? lolwat.

asians are far more needy than that. the last girl i got a number from got annoyed when i said i will message you tommoro… because i was tired.

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The first step to avoiding the friend zone is to think that there is no such thing as a friend zone. Unless of course, the other person is already in a relationship or, well, your relative.

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[quote=“Taipei2013”]
LOL. Is this a troll post? Call after 5-9 days? What.[/quote]

Yeah, because you would not be like every other chump if you called within the Cosmopolitan recommended 2 days (I too thought that was the right way to do things). If she was impressed at the time you got her number it would drive her insane if you waited that long to call her. She would be wondering why and you’d become a challenge which puts you on the next level most chumps can only dream of.
That is also why you don’t meet them at the weekends. You have to make them think you are out doing your thing and are living some fantastic full life while you are probably really sitting in front of a computer.

[quote=“Lros”]5-9? lolwat.

asians are far more needy than that. the last girl i got a number from got annoyed when I said i will message you tommoro… because I was tired.[/quote]

Why did you say you would message her? You should have let her wonder if you would even bother with her.
In fact, I would probably have thrown the number away, if she would pull that nonsense now, she would be a nightmare if in a relationship.

Check out this guy. He knows the deal.
askmen.com/dating/doclove/index.html
podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/docLove/pcast.php

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OP, to avoid the ‘friendzone’ just be honest about your intentions. Tell her you’re interested, if she’s not then go find someone else. The advantage of this ‘strategy’ is that you don’t have to then maintain lies or become something you’re not in order to keep her, you just have to keep being who you are. Added benefit is that you’ll set yourself apart from all the twits out there trying to act like some sort of pick up artist instead of just being a genuine man.

Seriously? My God, man, go actually live a fantastic full life! Don’t waste your youth just getting laid, waste it getting laid and doing all sorts of other cool stuff too!!

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The first step to getting out of the friendzone is not thinking that there is an easy formula to getting out of the friendzone. Ignore everything that everyone has said here (including me) and go with trial-and-error.

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[quote=“skoster”]OP, to avoid the ‘friendzone’ just be honest about your intentions. Tell her you’re interested, if she’s not then go find someone else. The advantage of this ‘strategy’ is that you don’t have to then maintain lies or become something you’re not in order to keep her, you just have to keep being who you are. Added benefit is that you’ll set yourself apart from all the twits out there trying to act like some sort of pick up artist instead of just being a genuine man.

Seriously? My God, man, go actually live a fantastic full life! Don’t waste your youth just getting laid, waste it getting laid and doing all sorts of other cool stuff too!![/quote]
Don’t worry about me.
But there are people out there who are in front of their computer or console who shouldn’t admit to doing that. They don’t need to say anything, they just need to imply they are ‘busy’. Actions speak louder than words. It is a game, well played by the female of the species who enjoy finding reasons not to bother with most of the men chasing them -as they like the challenge and most men don’t offer it.

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There’s no fucking game.

Theres ONE way not to ever get friend zoned: don’t be a fucking pussy. Ifya wanna bang a girl, tell her, up front, from the beginning. If YOU are being all shy, coy, playing the ‘good guy’ thinking she will eventually fall for you, well, chances are…she knows you want her, but are too much of a pussy to say so. Pussies don’t wanna bump uglies with other pussies (unless they’re lesbians). So your ‘friend’ knows you want her, always has…but YOU have been pretending not to, because you are a pussy (no specific “you” here, any lame ass ‘friendzoned’ guy, so chill out mods). So she lets you play, enjoys your attention…but you will never taste her sweet honey pot because she has no respect for you, and is therefore not attracted to you, because you are a fucking pussy.

The only time I was ever friendzoned was by a lesbian…who eventually turned :smiley: Why? Because I am not a fucking pussy.

'Nuff said, there’s no secret. If she rejects you…move the fuck on. If you are too attached to her to move on…thats because you are a fucking pussy and do not have the confidence to go find another chick. She also sees this…and loses even more respect for you…and further into this stupid friendzone you have created you go into.

YOU put yourself into the friendzone. That’s why you are there.

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why wouldnt i say i would message her? it was a pretty normal thing to say after i just wrote her number down. asian girls normally let you know if they are interested, from my experience anyway… it is pretty straight-forward and playing a game is hardly needed. if a girl is interested why bother making her wait a week? all that is going to do is give her an excuse to give you the same annoying crap you gave her.

there’s no need to be all needy about it, yea thats not going to help anyone. but if you like a girl and she likes you just get on with it. no need for complicating it with tiresome games.

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Don’t listen to that guy. 5-9 days. Wtf?!

Having dated and hung out with hot girls, let me tell you they get pinged like crazy throughout the day. She wont know who the fuck you are in 9 days. If a girl likes you, don’t play stupid silly games.

Do what Lros does, text them the next day. Call the day afterwards, set up a date. If she doesn’t kiss you on the first date, she ain’t interested. Move on.

Simple.

[quote=“Lros”][quote=“cake”]

[quote=“Lros”]5-9? lolwat.

asians are far more needy than that. the last girl i got a number from got annoyed when I said i will message you tommoro… because I was tired.[/quote]

Why did you say you would message her? You should have let her wonder if you would even bother with her.
In fact, I would probably have thrown the number away, if she would pull that nonsense now, she would be a nightmare if in a relationship.

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why wouldnt I say I would message her? it was a pretty normal thing to say after i just wrote her number down. Asian girls normally let you know if they are interested, from my experience anyway… it is pretty straight-forward and playing a game is hardly needed. if a girl is interested why bother making her wait a week? all that is going to do is give her an excuse to give you the same annoying crap you gave her.

there’s no need to be all needy about it, yea thats not going to help anyone. but if you like a girl and she likes you just get on with it. no need for complicating it with tiresome games.[/quote]

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[quote=“Taipei2013”]Don’t listen to that guy. 5-9 days. Wtf?!

Having dated and hung out with hot girls, let me tell you they get pinged like crazy throughout the day. She wont know who the fuck you are in 9 days. If a girl likes you, don’t play stupid silly games.

Do what Lros does, text them the next day. Call the day afterwards, set up a date. If she doesn’t kiss you on the first date, she ain’t interested. Move on.

Simple.

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That guy changed my life - for the better. Not only with the opposite sex, but it helps with everyday interactions as well. A huge influence.

Texting - I would never do that when arranging a date or dream of it the next day. Almost everyone does it and makes you like everyone else. As would doing it within the standard 2 days. As would meeting at the weekend.
If she didn’t know who you were in 9 days, you could move on to the next. But you would still have a chance after 9 days, because she gave you her number in the first place (but she may be a professional dater - goes on dates when she is bored, has low self esteem or wants a night out paid by the man)

Call them, arrange the date and that is it. No talking about how their day was etc., as it just gives them more reasons to find a way not to see you, as does texting, fb, etc.

I bet most of the men pinging the girl you knew told her she was beautiful etc. In one ear out the other.
The one guy who maybe negged her or was mysterious, different etc, would have had an opportunity to take it further. She would respond to challenge no matter what she’d care to admit to.
I wouldn’t call it a stupid game - it is paving the way for her interest level in you being higher than all the chumps following the cosmo/men’s health methodology.

I would also say the ‘if she doesn’t kiss you’ should be, if she doesn’t meet my standards - move on. I wouldn’t dream of kissing a girl on a first date that would last an hour at most - maybe at lunch time on a Wednesday.
I think many people watch movies and think they should react like that. It’s a load of bollocks.

Too many men put up with women who aren’t suitable, but stick around because they look good or for the sex.

But if it all works for you, carry on and good luck.

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[quote=“cake”][quote=“Taipei2013”]Don’t listen to that guy. 5-9 days. Wtf?!

Having dated and hung out with hot girls, let me tell you they get pinged like crazy throughout the day. She wont know who the fuck you are in 9 days. If a girl likes you, don’t play stupid silly games.

Do what Lros does, text them the next day. Call the day afterwards, set up a date. If she doesn’t kiss you on the first date, she ain’t interested. Move on.

Simple.

[/quote]
That guy changed my life - for the better. Not only with the opposite sex, but it helps with everyday interactions as well. A huge influence.

Texting - I would never do that when arranging a date or dream of it the next day. Almost everyone does it and makes you like everyone else. As would doing it within the standard 2 days. As would meeting at the weekend.
If she didn’t know who you were in 9 days, you could move on to the next. But you would still have a chance after 9 days, because she gave you her number in the first place (but she may be a professional dater - goes on dates when she is bored, has low self esteem or wants a night out paid by the man)

Call them, arrange the date and that is it. No talking about how their day was etc., as it just gives them more reasons to find a way not to see you, as does texting, fb, etc.

I bet most of the men pinging the girl you knew told her she was beautiful etc. In one ear out the other.
The one guy who maybe negged her or was mysterious, different etc, would have had an opportunity to take it further. She would respond to challenge no matter what she’d care to admit to.
I wouldn’t call it a stupid game - it is paving the way for her interest level in you being higher than all the chumps following the cosmo/men’s health methodology.

I would also say the ‘if she doesn’t kiss you’ should be, if she doesn’t meet my standards - move on. I wouldn’t dream of kissing a girl on a first date that would last an hour at most - maybe at lunch time on a Wednesday.
I think many people watch movies and think they should react like that. It’s a load of bollocks.

Too many men put up with women who aren’t suitable, but stick around because they look good or for the sex.

But if it all works for you, carry on and good luck.[/quote]

Really its simple. Girls are human too. If she likes you enough, you won’t be like the “other guys”. If your first dates are lasting an hour, she aint interested in you. Never do lunch dates, worst idea ever. Always do drink dates after work.

There is no methodology, you are making dating a science. Probably we have different frames of reference since I meet most of my girls through the nightlife scene. K.I.S.S has worked for me so far. Granted yes some girls who like to be a challenge, but way too many fish in the sea to put up with that bullshit.

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^ Fair enough. If it works for you then great.

Regarding the ‘hour’. It is always me that leaves first (no more than an hour) and and the lunch thing is the first time - to see if she ticks my boxes and you can weed out the professional daters and materialistic pea brains. I think too many men try and tick her boxes, when it should be the other way round.

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Our OP really needs Doc Love’s “The system”.

If he does not get it, he will be friend zoned for the rest of his life.