Making porn with your students

[quote=“Loretta”]I expect this will end up in fhe flounder bin, but I’ll start it here because it doesn’t really fit any one category. It embraces relationships, art, money, living in TW, teaching, and others.

And no, it’s not quite what the title suggests.

I have a small group of extremely interesting students. Adult professionals with outgoing personalities and enquiring minds. Adventurous, and incidentally all female. They’re fairly liberal, feminists, and artistic too. I really enjoy the classes with them and we do get into some quite deep topics.

Last class we were talking about motivations and values, the important things that guide our decision-making. ie the ‘because’ that makes you choose a particular activity.*

One point that arose is that what you want, or value, is influenced by what you know and one of the girls then shared her ‘secret ambition’. She is an artist, and she wants to communicate something that will change society - or at least the part of society that gets her message. And the particualr issue she wants to address is the unequal status of most relationships in Taiwan. (I’m only repeating what I was told. I don’t know much about the truth or otherwise of this opinion.)

She feels that porn is made for men, and always objectifies women for men’s gratification. As a result, most women are not really aware that there is a higher ideal to aim for. And so she wants to make a porn movie for women, one which features a woman having great sex and really enjoying it and feeling good about it.

I’m not quite sure how explicit she wants it to be, and she insists that it should be ‘art’ rather than just shagging. But she wants it to be ‘for real’.

This all came out of the blue, and I boggled for a while, but it’s quite an interesting idea and we talked about it a lot.

There are issues with raising money to make a picture like this, and then with distribution. It’s not a solo project, and she’s going to need a team with more than just artistic aspirations. And then she’ll need actors, as she sees her role as that of director.

As a ‘class project’ I think we might pursue this further, research all that’s involved, prepare a business plan, and just generally go forward as if it’s something we actually intend to do. We’re all intrigued by the concept and the process of taking an inspiration down the path towards realisation. OK, it’ll probably never get anywhere beyond the drawing board, but it might be a fun class.

So I’m looking for input, ideas, observations, opinions, and all the rest of it.

If you were going to make a porn movie with a message, and aim to not lose money on it, but were starting from scratch, how would you begin?

And, before anyone asks, yes, she asked me to be in it. I don’t think that was code for wanting a shag, and I don’t think it’s a good idea anyway, but it’s nice to be asked. :sunglasses:

*For instance, I sail because it’s an activity that combines quite a lot of thinking with physical activity, and it’s all about mastering your environment. With your two hands and a bit of grey matter you can control your situation to achieve your goal. The ‘root’ therefore is control and the overcoming of a challenge. Sailing is only one way to pursue the real goal, it’s not the important thing in and of itself.
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If you need any actors I’m up for an audition

So Loretta, you got about 4 good responses there, followed by the usual ‘verbal afterbirth’ that follows most threads.
“I’ve got a cock. Me me me. Look at it.”

Has she ever been interested in porn? Or in the subject she’s looking at? It’s hardly groundbreaking or even innovative – porn for women turns up 37 million google hits.
I think she’s either just winding you up or trying to impress with he “open mindedness.”
If she’s serious about taking it further I’d advise you to be very careful indeed.

There’s probably a bit of the latter in it, but apparently they watched quite a bit of porn as part of her art degree. :astonished:

I dunno really, I’m a bit lost. But it’s more fun than most other classes.

I should post an email address for applicants to send pics to.

[quote=“sandman”]Has she ever been interested in porn? Or in the subject she’s looking at? It’s hardly groundbreaking or even innovative – porn for women turns up 37 million google hits.
I think she’s either just winding you up or trying to impress with he “open mindedness.”
If she’s serious about taking it further I’d advise you to be very careful indeed.[/quote]

I tried “porn for men” and the screen froze for an hour as the "ooooo"s in “goooooogle” filled in.

oish!

Loretta, why? Are you auditioning now?

[quote=“jdsmith”]

I tried “porn for men” and the screen froze for an hour as the "ooooo"s in “goooooogle” filled in.

oish![/quote]

19,400 hits on google for “Balrog Porn”.

Find a bunch of smart, funny, horny, open, good hearted good looking, physically “proportionate” lets say people and film what happens to them as they are intoduced to each other and told that they can have sex if they want. Don’t try to hide the camera. Make it real. Follow each couple as they go off and do whatever they do. Let the couples observe the camera as they proceed so they can get the angle they want. Edit the thing and there you go. Perhaps each segment could have a clever themed title - Introductions, fred and nancy, the masochists, failure to launch, blast off, her way or the highway etc. that you think of after it’s filmed

If you try and write a story and act you’ll end up with something that looks amaturish.

Googling jdsmith porn: 208 hits

Whoa :astonished:

[quote=“Durins Bane”]Googling jdsmith porn: 208 hits

Whoa :astonished:[/quote]

Google “Loretta +porn” = 682,000 hits!

[quote=“Durins Bane”]Googling jdsmith porn: 208 hits

Whoa :astonished:[/quote]

What? You thought I was always a teacher? :smiley:

[quote=“jdsmith”][quote=“Durins Bane”]Googling jdsmith porn: 208 hits

Whoa :astonished:[/quote]

What? You thought I was always a teacher? :smiley:[/quote]

Try this!

[quote]
Results 1 - 10 of about 256,000 for jd smith porn. (0.51 seconds) [/quote]

:astonished: :astonished: :astonished:

Results 1 - 10 of about 259,000 for hillbilly porn. (0.43 seconds)

Your search - scotishhillbilly porn - did not match any documents.

Your search - scottishhillbilly porn - did not match any documents.

Results 1 - 10 of about 24,000 for scottish hillbilly porn. (0.32 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 24,500 for scotish hillbilly porn. (0.56 seconds)

Hmmmm…

and (added)

Results 1 - 10 of about 350,000 for ESL porn. (0.27 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,960,000 for english teacher porn. (0.39 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 160,000 for english in taiwan teacher porn. (0.58 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 218,000 for english teacher in taiwan porn. (0.23 seconds)

Only 1,010 hits for ImaniOU and porn. I need to get a better agent.

we coud go on and on couldnt we? :unamused:

[quote=“AWOL”]we coud go on and on couldnt we? :unamused:[/quote]Results 1 - 10 of about 207,000 for AWOL porn. (0.49 seconds)

apparently so… :wink:

Please bob. Stop. You’re hurting. Unless its not Fred Smith and Nancy Reagan that you’re referring to.
I know there’s a lot of acts and couplings that can be referred to as porn, but surely Fred and Nancy in flagrante delicto isn’t one of them. Surely? :astonished:

[quote=“jdsmith”][quote=“jdsmith”][quote=“Durins Bane”]Googling jdsmith porn: 208 hits

Whoa :astonished:[/quote]

What? You thought I was always a teacher? :smiley:[/quote]

Try this!

[quote]
Results 1 - 10 of about 256,000 for jd smith porn. (0.51 seconds) [/quote]

:astonished: :astonished: :astonished:[/quote]

I googled using jd smith + (more specific porn terminology that I dare not post here) and I have only one question…

Is there anything you haven’t tried? :astonished:

OK loretta I admit your situation has me really curious. I would not participate for a second in the actual making but I will give you my ideas…

Women I think want their sexuality more wrapped up intimacy and intimacy requires honesty. Prepare a little speech saying that you are all there with the express interest in having sex with somebody and that if nobody strikes your fancy or you don’t feel like it or whatever that is OK too. Explain that it is OK to talk about how this prospect “makes you feel” and explain further that it is OK to ask each other questions about anything. “Do you practice safe sex always?” “How many partners have you had?” “Are those real?” “I’m scared, how bout you?” Whatever. Later the whole gang could get together to share notes or trade partners etc. Film that conversation too.

Not that any of this is actually going to happen of course but if it were to happen this would be the easiest way to get something interesting to watch.

[quote=“Durins Bane”][quote=“jdsmith”][quote=“jdsmith”][quote=“Durins Bane”]Googling jdsmith porn: 208 hits

Whoa :astonished:[/quote]

What? You thought I was always a teacher? :smiley:[/quote]

Try this!

[quote]
Results 1 - 10 of about 256,000 for jd smith porn. (0.51 seconds) [/quote]

:astonished: :astonished: :astonished:[/quote]

I googled using jd smith + (more specific porn terminology that I dare not post here) and I have only one question…

Is there anything you haven’t tried? :astonished:[/quote]

Alone or with other people in the room?