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Sorry, just the junior high student in me. Carry on and ignore me.
Can you promise me that I can be the first to call this in to the Apple Daily?
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She’s going to need publicity…
bob, glad you found this. I was hoping you would. Ditto AWOL and a couple of others.
Smartalecs, thank you. Your contribution has been noted. Now please do run along and play. This is an adult conversation.
Anyone who’s interested, I talked about this with a TW girl for whom I have a lot of respect last night. “Cool,” she said. “I’d love to do it.” (Not with me, though.) I could make a lot more sense of this whole thing if I actually knew what the prevailing attitudes were here, but I’ve spent my time otherwise engaged and now I feel like I’m in wonderland. A whole new world is opening up in front of my eyes.
Cool!
It’s only a porn, how politically correct have we become? It’s not a big deal, all persons involved are satisfied. Do it as it’s filmed, have fun, let the others critique and criticize. Have fun while you can.
It’s better to regret things you have done, then things you haven’t.
Taiwanese porn actresses? Sounds good to me !!!
porn has always been targeted primarily for males because males are visual creatures, turned on by what they see.
women are turned on by intimacy, by touch.
to turn women on by porn, or make porn that interests them you have to get in touch with intimacy and touch.
making a porn film with a story has been done to death-it was all there was before internet, or reality porn. now porn is just getting down to the deed-no story needed. just pick up a girl on the street, offer her money and take her to a hotel and get it going with lots of undressing her, close ups of her sucking, close ups of her pants being pulled down, close ups of the deed, and lots of the climax- all very visually stimulating for the male fantasizing that this is him, or he enjoys being a voyeur.
women who watch porn, usually do it with their man to get him excited. the porn itself is probably boring for most women because it caters to mens fantasies.
you need to find out what woman fantasize about. what turns them on, that is the intimacy and the touch factors.
in general i dont think women would care to watch it. they need something more real than us men do. porn is a man thing. women read romance novels. how many men read romance novels?
so i guess what im saying is that you are trying to cater a mans world to woman. its not going to interest most women.
maybe you could just cater to women who are visually stimulated: that is have dominant women pick up men, pay them, take them to a hotel and treat them like meat. slowly pull their pants down, close ups of his package, and a woman doing what she pleases to him, while he just sits back and takes it all. sure he may enjoy it, but he doesnt get to decide what happens - only the women do. they can spank him or beat him or lick him or whatever they feel like doing, its their turn.
jm
Thanks Lorretta. I was hoping the whole thing wasn’t a (quite a good actually) joke…
Anyway…
The Ice Storm, only happy is what you are looking for perhaps, it was filmed in the states but with the same director that did brokebackmountain. What they did was get together as a group of couples 
and threw their car keys into a pot. Whoever’s keys you drew, that’s who you slept with.
I’d open it up a bit from there. Emphasize that the partipants are in total control of what they will alllow in the final edit. They can decide through conversation and perhaps the odd bit of show and tell who they want to play with. Perhaps they should even have their own cameras. You are in control of whether what they will allow makes the grade.
This could be a wonderful film if the participants are allowed to relax a little and the cameraman is sensitive to whatever space the participants may or may not need. A female voiceover directing the camera moves might give it the female perspective you are looking for.
Let me know if there is anything else I can do.
I think if women made a porn movie that was made to appeal to women only, (insetead of one women could watch with their husbands) no man would want to see it. I’m picturing Rain prissing around and preening in his lowcut tight pants, and I don’t like it.
Women like that Blueboy stuff.
Have you ever considered looking into the “pornaid” sites? I think it’s a great idea. These nutty hippies in Norway started up Fuckforforest.com. It’s quite a popular site and all of the proceeds go to environmental organizations. As I understand it, a lot of the material is donated by amateurs…
“FFF are concerned humans, exploring the power of sexuality, all to save nature. We know a lot of people are interested in sexuality, including us. We want to have fun with sex, show natural people and collect money for saving nature! We think it is time to pay respect to nature, and give back with love!”
Though FFF has been having legal trouble lately and they were recently charged with indecent behavior after getting jiggy on stage at a benefit with metal band The Cumshots. Although they seem to have some have some difficulty getting organizations like WWF to take donations, I think it’s a step in the right direction. Imagine a Fuck to End Poverty event?
Now that’s a movement I can get behind.
God I thought the posts about jdsmith and google hits were fawkin funny but then when I got to BOb’s post about what women want in their porn I was :roflmao: :roflmao: Intmacy bob? You gotta be kidding me. The posts about women wanting porn to have intmacy and all that touchy feel shite is just so full of generalizations. Again, men have proven themsevles how little they know when pleasing a women in and out of the bedroom 
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IMO women who would watch porn wouldn’t be doing it for ‘intmacy’. If we wanted that we would call our girlfriends or dear old mom for a good rant. I think the word porn says it all- watching a sexual act for aiding in getting one’s jollies off. Nothing intmate about that. I think that women don’t like porn is that typical porn fare is the woman saying some corny ass half a brain line, out pop the tits, the guy licks for 5 secs and then the act comes, while she moans on and on, in a very fake manner. In fact, it hits to close to home at times 
. If anything, porn IMO serves to boost male egos not their sexual appetites.
Not all women want to see more intimacy btwn the partners but a lot do. Anyway I wasn’t talking necessarily so much about touchy feely intimacy anyway. I was talking about honesty. If the woman is honest maybe she’ll say she fantasizes about doing it with donkey dick or micro dick or about being dominant. A lot would like to be dominant I think. Especially the ones who get kicked around in life. The guys should also be allowed to be honest too and say or do whatever they want about what is suggested by the women. People should be allowed zorro masks if they want.
Then again I guess you could go with John Mosses idea and just pay somebody to do what you want. Would probably be easier, just not very interesting.
I guess what I’m saying is that it would not have to be done as though something “dirty” was happening. Just be human, admit you like sex and that this idea sounds fun so you are going to go along with it till you reach your limits. Those limits might be five guys or girls later or they might be before anything happens. Try and use the camera as an instrument of intimacy in that you use it to peer into the people’s souls as they go through this extraordinary experience. Don’t use washed out prostitutes because they will have lost the spark long ago. Fresh off the press prostitutes might be another story.
well namahottie,
i dont think any of us men know what women would want in a porno.
we are only suggesting what the differences are between men and women, in our opinions, and from our attempts to understand women.
men are turned on visually. thats why porn is a multi-billion dollar industry, catered 99.9% to men.
women, from what we primitive beasts with car keys can determine, are turned on not by visual ques so much as the touch mechanism. sure, men react to touch too, as some women react to visuals. but mainly, men can get going down there with a simple glimpse of a girls buttcrack cleavage or breast cleavage. how many women get going down there if they see a plumber crack? not many, most are grossed out. now if the plumber was hot, and then he started telling you how gorgeous you are and how you look so good with the moonlight glistening off your hair, you might start getting juicy. and then if you let him touch you, yes touch you, then look out.
men and women are different. we are both just animals though. look at the animal kingdom, of which we are a part. whether its lions or horses, squids, or sparrows, the male will attempt to mate with everyone he sees. its the female that decides whether or not to allow it. males just want to get down and pass on the seed. the female has much more at stake.
and i dont think porn feeds a mans ego. if anything, porn makes the ego say, “hey that should be me, but its not, its that guy, hes sexier than i am”. it only feeds fantasy because life is never like porn. porn is full of models, slim, sexy, no warts or pimples, just glistening, firm muscular bodies. real life sex is stinky and messy and quick. in porn it goes on for hours. total fantasy.
jm
I screwed my third girlfriend for five hours straight. That was thirty years ago. 
Great reply from john moss. Fully agree.
On the other hand, porn-marketeers do know that “amateur movies” , like people with bellies and little titties, like you and me and are more real than those “actors” living on Viagra and pumped up with silicon. Fantasy must be reachable , otherwise it is a turn-off I presume
As for the girl who wants to make this female oriented porn movie, why not just making it a FF one? Keep it lesbian. The emotional part will be as good, or better, as a F-M one, but without Mr. penis needed to act.
Whenever a male will be in, the camera will focus on the genitals no?
I simply do not get the point that porn can be oriented to different sexes.
Here’s an idea, one of twenty or so ideas, for essays on contemporary culture and civilization that I have on the back-burner…
Theft of the Mutual Orgasm
…how american pornography has bred a generation of sexual half-wits who have no idea about how to have mutual orgasms because all they can do is chimp the jerking off portrayed in typical porn videos: the man pulls out and comes on the girl
hey bob,
2 comments on you 2 most recent posts.
first, who wants porn that is “interesting”? who watches porn for the story line or plot? people watch porn for the images, and who sits through an entire film. most used to be an hour and a half long. now much shorter, and for good reason.
second, yeah right. 5 hours??!! you were either too small and she too loose or you already came 3 or 4 times within that 5 hours. the latter is not uncommon. but to go at it and not blast for 5 hours, i dont buy it.
and 2 comments to ceevee369.
first, thanks
second. i think thats why reality porn is taking over. oh, sure there are still flicks with the muscular men and the “perfect” females, but there are lots of them now with bald, fat guys, fat women, old women, hairy women. to quote david byrne, “if you can think of it, it’s already been done”.
jm
You’ve never tried (in this case, the incorrectly titled) ecstacy, have you JM?
HG
Perhaps he was wearing a condom.
I wouldn’t believe it if somebody told me either but what I know for a fact is that we got started before midnight and we were still at it when day broke. It was 4, 5, 6 hours I figure. Probably 5 I think as this was in the summer and the sky starts getting light around 4:30 - 5:00 as I recall.
No orgasm. She was tight and creamy as could be by the way. Mostly we just talked and enjoyed the gorgeous night breezes and night sky through the big window beside the bed.
Anyway, maybe porno isn’t “supposed to be” interesting or real or but whose rules are those?
well, no, i’ve never done E.
and bob, good job. sounds like you should be in the movies. i assume this girl is either still with you or was totally bummed when you broke up.
and a friend of mine did have this one porno. i think he only had this one because he was a film student. this porn was like oliver stones movie “natural born killers”. only like it in the way that in this film oliver stone uses pretty much every special effect know to the film industry. remember in “nbk” how many visual effects there were while the story continued: be it switching to black and white, morphing the screen, blurring or blending images, and lots of editing tricks that made the film interesting, or totally a trip if you were baked…well, this porno he had did the same thing. and it was one of the more “interesting” pornos i’ve seen only in how it was treated in the post production editing room. the content was, of course, the typical porno film. but yeah, you are right, it doesnt have to be without appeal other than the erotica involved.
jm
Keep the comments coming. I’ll cut and paste a lot of them and take them to class for discussion.
I’m probably imposing my own interpretation on all this, so feel free to disregard me, but from what she said last week:
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She wants there to be some ‘story’, not really a plot, but some kind of theme or development. Or maybe she just meant a conclusion? It’s about changing attitudes/ideas, so I guess something should be different at the end from how it was at the beginning.
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She’s very keen on the visuals, the photograhy/cinematography, or whatever you call it. It has to look good, not simply depict shagging.
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It’s about a man and a woman having sex that is (also?) pleasurable for the woman. I tried to talk her into more girls, but she’s having none of it. She wants to explore the sexuality in a 1-1 relationship, not sexuality generally. That’s a pity, but you can’t have everything in life!
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She’s also worried about her audience. Make it too arty or too extreme and no-one will watch it, and how do you market/distribute it anyway?