[quote=“dix2111”]The powdered milk is fine for yogurt or soft cheese. I haven
Milk taste depends on the temperature of pasteurization. It would seem that Taiwanese milk is held at too high a temp. for too long and thus has the funny taste. Also, milk is left in the sun here before it gets to supermarket shelves and consequently has warmed a bit and is then chilled: this affects taste and reduces shelf life dramatically. I’ve also heard that some ‘fresh’ milk sold here is imported powder and made up locally, this may explain why the brand I usually buy now has a new sticker saying “Real Fresh Milk - not reconstituted”! What I’d give for a glass of real milk and a tim tam 
Yes, its literally shit. I grew up on a dairy farm. The cups can and will fall off and suck up shit.
I drink soy and don’t go near the stuff. Soy on cereal is so much better than cow puss. Its nutty flavour adds to the cereal.
Starbucks Hong Kong will give you a soy option for drinks. Taiwan. No way.
yep, the vast majority of “milk” here is either mixed from various powders and tap water or else watered down 3:1 with added thickening and flavoring agents… plus has anyone noticed that most milk here can be left for about 3 weeks before it turns sour, and even when it does it’s a creepy odd tasting type of sour… Although the GuangChuan in the new blue packaging is just barely okay…
My Taiwanese brothers in law went to the US for 3 months and when they came back they had become noticibly chubbier… the obvious super-sized US portions aside, they say they think it was the milk… they couldn’t believe how good the milk was, so they drank it like water for 3 months…
but to appreciate the world’s finest milk bar none (IMO), it’s necessary to go to Zermatt in Switzerland… real cows, real grass, real air… there’s a reason why Swiss chocolate is so good (no, it’s got nothing to do with those little red pocket knives)
i miss milk…
Dangermouse… how about that link… we’re milkless for chrissakes!.. :help:
how about the goats milk you can get delivered every morning?..thats a more full flavored treat if you’re really jonesing…
Yeah, and if you consider where the milk comes from. I lived a 10 minutes walk from a goatfarmer, he had about 30-40 goats, they never came outside because they didn’t have a pasture, they were given imported hay though.
They were kept in small stainless steel enclosures with a bottom made from pipes, to allow the shit and pee to fall through.
An old kitchen cabinet piled out with antibiotics.
Let me guess, he used it only when the goats got sick, right?
That’s were the goat milk comes from.
And they sell all their milk, they have contracts. If you want to buy milk there, no prob, 100 NT$/quart. Want to buy 20 quarts, no problem, 100 NT$/quart. See, they don’t need to sell to you for a discount, they have buyers.
I bought milk there because I like goat cheese, and if wanted some I had to drive to Tianmu, so I decided to make my own. Don’t know if i did the right thing though.
[quote=“Dangermouse”]UHT milk is utterly disgusting and is a direct and unallowable insult to the world of milk. I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to drink something that tastes like warm water (even when it is cold).
There is some fantastic milk here which I order from a company which specialises in, erm, milk and stuff, and it actually tastes like real milk. Their yoghurt is pretty good too.
I’ll post the details - it arrives once every two weeks and I consider it a luxury in a country full of milk imitations.[/quote]
I prefer Wei-Chuan’s “High Quality Milk”, which is the closest to what I drink in the US. And it’s available in skim, which I prefer.
UHT milk is horrendous. Ugh!
I’m drinking Uni President milk right now and it’s delicious. I don’t care where it’s from, I love milk!
Aren’t most Taiwanese lactose intolerant anyway, so it doesn’t matter to them? I see tons of these calcium drinks and products in the stores for people who can’t drink milk.
There’s one company in Taiwan that has organic milk, that tastes pretty good.
Does anyone have written details about what, if any, preservatives, powders etc go into the milk here? And how do milk powders compare - do they have preservatives/anti-hardening agents/whatever in them?
And maybe off-topic, are cheese slices really cheese? I grew up believing they are made of plastic, was I misled?
[quote=“asiababy”]And maybe off-topic, are cheese slices really cheese? I grew up believing they are made of plastic, was I misled?[/quote] Nope, they’re leftover cheese…just think the ingredients are similar to what goes into sausage meat. A friend of mine worked for Anchor for a couple of months.
The slices definitely taste like the wrappers though…my family had a dog that liked licking the plastic wrappers and would be at the fridge door or wherever as soon as she heard the sound of the plastic being unwrapped.
it’s chees allright, but with a bunch off salt and preservatives added. And flavors (strawberry, pineapple etc…)… it doesn’t taste that bad, but it’s not cheese perse anymore.
I got the real thing though, a lot of them.
Organic goatsmilk, that’s what i’m looking for to make goats cheese.
That’s the one! They do sell it in stores! My missus got some in Yong He somewhere. It was beside the hens’ teeth. Must find out where it was.
I need to get some non-fat milk.
Can I be fairly sure that what I get here is actually non-fat and not just low-fat?
If this is on the bottle - 脫脂牛奶- will that mean totally fat-free?
Brian
Well, that’s not milk, it’s just white colored water, tastes the same. 
Just buy non-fat powder, at least this way you can make a more concentrated milk yourself.
Proper milk is only 5% fat.
Just add some water to your whole milk. That’s what I do for making cappucino froth etc and it works fine. Skimmed and semi-skimmed milk are a con introduced by creameries to fleece gullible eternal-youth-brigaders.
I swear to God, and I didn’t have my camera, that on my recent travels I saw “low calorie” water in a sandwich shop. I think it was in an airport in Europe. The mind boggles.
Can anyone actually answer my question?
I just want to be able to tell the difference between low-fat and skimmed milk in the supermarket.
Thanks.
Brian
In Taiwan you’ve three kinds of milk and available in any Supermarket “normally”,
red = whole milk = > 3.8% fat
green = low-fat = > 1.5% fat < 3.8%
blue = non-fat = < 1.5% fat
But people in Taiwan don’t really care about this and that’s why it’s more difficult to find, they mostly go for the “high quality milk”, obviously thanks to the TV ad’s of cows walking through the living room etc…
One of my first deception when I got here was how awful the milk tasted, throughout the years several new brands poped up advertising “High quality Milk” etc… but it never really tasted like it.
Well, i found it today…real milk, 100% organic and it TASTE GREAT. The farm is in beito, but they do home delivery every Tuesday in Taipei, it’s 75$ a bottle and if you ever drank real milk before you will love it, so I wanted to share this with all the milk lovers.
Dong Hua Street, Section 2, #128 1FL Beito.
Tel: 2820 9772
[quote=“igorveni”]One of my first deception when I got here was how awful the milk tasted, throughout the years several new brands poped up advertising “High quality Milk” etc… but it never really tasted like it.
Well, I found it today…real milk, 100% organic and it TASTE GREAT. The farm is in Beitou, but they do home delivery every Tuesday in Taipei, it’s 75$ a bottle and if you ever drank real milk before you will love it, so I wanted to share this with all the milk lovers.
Dong Hua Street, Section 2, #128 1FL Beitou.
Tel: 2820 9772[/quote]
I’m a milk lover, but my love is for skim milk. Even “1% milk” (i.e. milk with 1% milk fat) is too rich and creamy for me.