We plan to move to Taoyuan before school starts in Sept for our 11 years old. She speaks and writes in English and Mandarin.
Any suggestions where to live and a decent local school?
Thank you.
We plan to move to Taoyuan before school starts in Sept for our 11 years old. She speaks and writes in English and Mandarin.
Any suggestions where to live and a decent local school?
Thank you.
Hi! No advice, but I’m one step ahead in the planning… I’m moving to Taoyuan this summer also, with my 11 and 8 year olds. They’ll be attending Happy Elementary School – which I heard was bilingual but I can’t really tell you much more about it at this point. Hopefully someone else can chime in!
If your children can speak and write Mandarin I’d avoid bilingual schools. High school will be a killer.
Thank you folks for your time.
This sounds like a really scary cram school in worn down building in a back alley. It could be a very legitimate school, but the name scares me. I have never heard of it, though, so I will add that this is only my opinion of the name.
I will chime in about bilingual schools, since I always rant about them on this forum: Taiwan’s definition of “bilingual” school is “a school with some English instruction in PE, art, and music”. It usually involves throwing a white person in the room who may or may not have any idea how to teach, while calling the local teachers who may or may know any English but do all the teaching “assistants”. If it is a public school (I’ve been to about 11 “bilingual” schools around Taiwan and 2 in Kinmen), no academic classes are taught at bilingual schools and the students are barely at level in their English ability (compared to what the government-issued textbooks expect of them).
So be very careful about the use of the word “bilingual”. Find out what the classrooms look like. Look at the textbooks, especially the English ones. Make sure any supplementary English text makes sense and isn’t teaching crap like “x” is for “x-mas”.
Ask to speak to the principal in English. If they can’t speak English, walk away. You can’t run a bilingual school if you can’t speak one of the target languages. If the principal’s English sucks, there’s a good chance that focus is on the $$$$$ and not the English proficiency.
If you can, go in person and sit in on a class. Decide for yourself if you think the environment is good for your kids.
But if your kid already speaks both languages fluently, I’d send them to a local school. They’re more likely to get to know local friends and learn Chinese naturally. Plus, if you want to stick around for a few more years, they’re going to need the intense, mind-numbing academic environment that is the Taiwanese school system.
just on this part. It is a municipal school (快樂國小) with English Village program.
just on this part. It is a municipal school (快樂國小) with English Village program.
Interesting. I’d never have thought they’d name an elementary school that.
To add on to that: English Villages are horrid disasters. Any school claiming to be “bilingual” because they have an English Village is a liar. They probably have one more than the standard (one) English class per week and a full time “English immersion” program where different schools in the area come for two or three days at a time.
Thank you very much for your advice Tando. We will go for the local school.
Thank you for sharing.
There seems to be a public school in Taoyuan called Happy Elementary School:
桃園市桃園區快樂國民小學(英文:Taoyuan Municipal Happy Elementary School)為中華民國桃園市桃園區的一所市立國民小學,成立於2003年,時稱會稽國小快樂分校,並於隔年獨立設校。 為了解決會稽與大有國小學生人數過多問題,於是啟動設立國小。校名由來是會稽國小學生票選出來。
本校位於南崁都市計畫大檜溪地區文小八學校預定地,自九十三學年度起正式招生並遴派校長,整體規劃新建校舍工程已於九十六年八月中旬完工,為配合桃園、南崁都市計畫發展,提供社區民眾教育與休閒場所,建立學習型社區,達成終生學習之目的。積極推動教育部小班教學政策、以落實教育機會均等理念,有效舒解臨近學校國小學童激增或擁擠的壓力,以提供合理、適性之教育空間及學習園地,以培育優良國民。快樂國小從無到有,更期能從有到精緻美好,發揮團隊動力,透過計畫、執行、考核的行政歷程,實施全面品質管理,有效率地追求更精緻的教育...
Is that the same school as the one that has been mentioned in this thread?
So far on the board I don’t think I’ve found a lot of information about Taoyuan that would be directly helpful to newly-arrived persons, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that the information isn’t in there somewhere. I’m pasting these links in case they can be of help (I can’t guarantee the accuracy of their contents):
From 2017:
There are plenty of buses and bus routes within Taoyuan, as well as long distance buses to Taipei, Taichung, etc. There’s even a free bus system within the main urban area of Taoyuan District (formerly Taoyuan City). However, the bus system is not English friendly compared to Taipei. If you can’t read Chinese, or don’t have the patience to figure out what’s what using Google Translate, then you’d probably say screw it. The bus website here (桃園客運(TYBUS)便民資訊網 (桃園市延平路28號3樓 電話:03-3753711 傳真:03-375…
From 2011:
I’ve said it before–Taoyuan is not all that bad. Immediate downtown–not so good; areas like Da Yo Road are somewhat better. I managed 11 years living from Ping Jen to Nankan [ I think Nankan also called Luzhu ], and enjoyed my time. Tiger Head Mountain stretches quite a ways for hiking, and you can head over to any of the universities (Nei Li/Chung Li) for sports such as basketball, soccer or even ball hockey. I found it much easier to practice Chinese on a daily basis as well. Taipei is not that far away for museum/cultural trips–wasn’t a place I ever wanted to live.
Keep an open perspective–I know quite a few others who have lived in the area for 15+ years and enjoy themselves.
(The bracketed words and link were added by me.)
From 2011:
As usual, a lot of Taipei people chiming in with responses. I’ve lived 10 years in the Taoyuan area-- from Taoyuan city itself, to Zhongli and Yangmei. It’s not nearly as bad as described. Granted, it doesn’t have the glitz of downtown Taipei, but I’d sooner choose Taoyuan over most of the cities in New Taipei, especially places like Banqiao and Xinzhuang (hell on earth, if I’ve ever seen it). Taoyuan city, itself doesn’t have much going for it at first glance. However, you quickly find you can …
From 2009:
Taoyuan County has been Taiwan’s fastest growing county for almost a decade now. That’s why there are many families there and thus more English teaching jobs. Taoyuan is heavily working class and the rapid development there has come at a considerable cost to the quality of life. Chungli and Taoyuan are both absolute pits in my opinion. The Yangmei area is nice though as is the Longtan area. There are far fewer foreign-oriented businesses than in Taipei City or even Taipei County. Public trans…
From 2009:
. . . there is a city callen NanKan [ I think it’s also called Luzhu ], many foreign English teachers live there, it is a newer area, nicer apts, huge modern mall (Tai Mall) lots of schools (fastest growing kid pop’n in Taiwan seemingly) easy to go in and out on the bus (less than 1 hour to Taipei).
(The bracketed words and link were added by me.)
From 2002:
I live south of Zhongli, in a small town called Yangmei. Zhongli looks ok to me. A normal Taiwanese town without too many foreigners. Somehave described it as a polluted hell hole, but what the heck? That description fits the most of the island. There are bars and I know for a fact that you’ll find some other English teachers. Taoyuan is bigger, more foreigners, acouple of decent malls, a Tesco (Yes, I know Zhongli will have one soon too) and some nice areras if you leave town and go explore in …
I’m going to add this here, because if you’re unfamiliar with the English Villages in Taiwan, my above post sounds like a blanket statement of negativity. It is, but it’s not unfounded (scroll down to post 14 and down):
My first job in Taiwan was with an English Village where we would bus the kids to our school and give lessons in a classroom that had specific themes. Each classroom different: Hotel, Newsroom, Airport, Grocery Mart… Every month we would pick one classroom and do exactly the same lesson (based on a very formal lesson plan) multiple times a day. That was the epitome of deja vu. Still, it didn’t bother me because I was still finding things that worked at the end of the month.
That’s the school that I worked at. Years ago it certainly wasn’t a bilingual school. I can’t say of it is now or not. It’s a nice school in a nice area of Taiyuan. Good luck
Thank you for your time.
@OH94 @thegirl
Since both of you have stayed since summer, what area would you recommend for family with children under 8?
Thank you. Considering Taoyuan.
No offense but 快樂國小 sounds like some place in a scary movie…
Is their mascot a clown ?
Btw I’m from pingchen and I lived near 中央大學
The place is nice
Good air
Quiet
Not too faraway from downtown (ten minutes ride to Chung Li)
Near airport
Subway to Taipei and taoyuan and chungli and the airport
HSR
And there’s a bicycle route beside a stream where I used to jog
Also you can take the kids to play on the campus of 中央大學 every weekend like my cousin does
Plus Hakka food is the best
Oh but if you’re taking kids to a public pool then I’d suggest you getting a lifeguard license yourself and ALWAYS keep an eye on your kids
Not just kids but like everyone you take to the pool
Basically just be the lifeguard yourself
Don’t ask me why the truth is waaayyyyy too scary
Is their mascot a clown ?
What’s the problem with clowns? Our resident one, @rooftopclown, isn’t scary in the least!
Don’t ask me why the truth is waaayyyyy too scary
Too late. Now you HAVE to tell us!
Well it’s simple
During my days when I worked at a pool
I found that sometimes there’s no lifeguard
And even there was
They might be sleeping at their lounge
Or just staring at their phones
Not all pools are like that
Private ones are usually better
Especially the fancy ones in a community
Just remember that lifeguards might not be present at an understaffed pool
Although the law does require one to be there
Make sure that there’s at least one lifeguard before you go to a pool
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We are in Taoyuan city, happy here. Not too crowded and everything is within walking distance. My daughter is bilingual, attending the local elementary school (Tong De) cause we emphasize more on the Chinese language. Plan is she will attend senior high overseas and English will not be an issue.