Are you sure?
It transfers only on âcloseâ contactâŠ
Jokes aside. This time it was probably transferred by preparing/eating monkey meat and went from there.
Whatâs the shelf life for 10 million doses of Monkey Vax?
I doubt anybody cares. Whether those doses get used is probably not part of whatever-theyâre-up-to this time.
EDIT: it just occurred to me that 10 million doses for the elites would be just about the right amount when they release the weaponized smallpox.
How come this did not wipe out all of Africa over the decades and decades it has been around?
I wonder if chicken pox will vanish for a year or two should the numbers go up?
Because it has historically not been very infectious and doesnât really kill people? Of course you could have looked this up yourself, but instead you rather ridiculously changed your profile picture to a monkey 
Edit: lmao I see you replying at the bottom with your monkey grin and I canât help but crack up here. Thanks for the laugh!
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I was being sarcastic.
Yes, the media is not implying this is a serious threat with their fancy graphics of country cases and tiny rise in numbers.
Covid has a low death rate but very high levels of transmission and can easily crush healthcare systems. Come on, itâs 2022. Everybody should understand this better by now.
Overall immunity - to a novel human pathogen?
Whatâs your point here? Do you think this is invented?
A 1% death rate is HIGH if this spreads at all. The weird thing is that international spread of monkeypox has NEVER happened before. And there are already confirmed cases in people who have had zero connection to the original cluster from the festival. We have NEVER seen monkeypox spreading like this before.
Luckily, genetic sequencing shows that this is the same strain as seen in Africa, so no reason to believe it has mutated to become more infectious. Hopefully this is just because of the âlifestylesâ of the affected people. But thatâs how pandemics can start, with those people then taking it out to the people they live with. Itâs already seeded to at least 14 countries too.
Itâs also not just about death. Permanent scarring doesnât sound fun.
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At least âpermanent scarringâ is a physical, visible result of monkey pox. Canât really deny that the way âI got COVID in 2020 and I still canât walk across the room without needing to stop and catch my breathâ, âI canât smell/taste anythingâ, âcoffee reeks like rotting garbage nowâ and all the other post/long COVID symptoms that certain people insist are âall in your headâ
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We understand that it never actually happened, and despite the best efforts of governments to make it happen by shuttering the hospitals and sending doctors home, it still failed to happen. Why is this still trope being bandied around as an incontrovertible truth?
If healthcare services look like they might be overwhelmed by something, the obvious solution is get them prepared so that theyâre not overwhelmed.
If TPTB attempt another round of lockdowns, masking, and all the other voodoo bullshit they did with COVID to âprotect the health serviceâ, right in the middle of an inflationary crisis and an energy shortage, thereâs going to be bloodshed on the streets. Perhaps thatâs what theyâre aiming for. Iâm not sure if theyâre actually that stupid - the hoi polloi in Sri Lanka seem to have figured out precisely who is causing the trouble and have gone after them with surprising precision - but it wouldnât surprise me if they are.
If people didnât have âoverall immunityâ weâd have all died out long before we even crawled out of the sea. Weâre swimming in a soup of pathogens, and our immune system fends them off.
There were dozens of research papers posted early on in 2020 suggesting that most humans have a robust response to COVID-19 ⊠which is why people werenât dropping dead in droves. Not only did we appear to have a general immune response, we also had an adaptive immune response, suggesting it wasnât particularly novel.
Likewise, the fact that monkeypox is âhard to spreadâ is partly down to the fact that all humans have a functional immune system, and itâs possible we have an adaptive response to monkeypox because of prior exposure to viruses with a similar envelope.
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Iâm not sure whether youâve misunderstood me. Obviously it wonât provide overall (do you understand this to mean âcompleteâ?) immunity to a new virus. A personâs overall immunity increases the more viruses they are exposed to. One strain may provide a degree of immunity to another strain, and this may also apply to a new virus. Again, I donât understand any issue about this.
This has previously been cited multiple times on this site, but it may be pertinent to the current discussion, so Iâll link it again:
Not so novel coronavirus?
At least six studies have reported T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in 20% to 50% of people with no known exposure to the virus.5678910
The authors concluded: âCould pre-existing immunity be more protective than future vaccines? Without studying the question, we wonât know.â
Which was certainly the case. The world went full steam ahead with lockdowns, restrictions and vaccines, ignoring any other possible (and probably more scientific and socially responsible) responses.
A few short years ago, the monkeypox wouldnât have garnered so many headlines, especially considering how little it is of an actual threat. As of 21 May, 13:00, 92 laboratory confirmed cases, and 28 suspected cases of monkeypox with investigations ongoing, have been reported to WHO. For the vast majority, symptoms clear up within a few weeks with no treatment whatsoever. In 2003, there were 71 cases, just in the US alone. There are 7.9 billion people on the planet. Now, all of a sudden the US govt is spending $119 million on a chimpvax 
I wouldnât even be slightly surprised if they start making the smallpox vaccine mandatory:
"Since the turn of the millennium, the U.S. government has spent more than $1 billion to develop and stockpile the Jynneos smallpox vaccine. "
NB: âMeanwhile, in Britain, the UKHSA has highlighted that the recent cases in the country were predominantly among men who self-identified as gay, bisexual or men who have sex with men.â Reuters.
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âleading theory was sexual transmission among gay and bisexual men at two raves held in Spain and Belgium.â
These sorts of reports seem to think that the only sex gay men have is anal and that straight sex is never anal. We need to face the reality that some gay people do not have anal sex and that plenty of straight people (or I guess âpeople having sex with the opposite sexâ would be more accurate) do have anal sex. This sort of reporting makes it sound like its a âgay problemâ, which means that, like HIV, it will be crazily out of control before anyone realizes itâs an actual problem
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Yeah, I guess we canât trust Reuters to get things straight.
I think you are reading too far into it. Itâs just a reality that this group participates in anal sex more than heterosexual populations, in aggregate. I donât think anyone is getting their feelings hurt or is feeling misrepresented hereâŠif monkeypox is at-large in a segment of this community, the public needs to be informed. If anything this puts people more at ease that mOnKeYpOx is not really anything to fear if they and their partner are exclusive.
Do you think those in public health should obfuscate the fact that the earliest known recent outbreak of monkeypox was found in a cluster of homosexual and bisexual men?
edit: do we even know if this thing is transmitted via anal sex? Or just any sex?
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Those pesky TPTB are shamelessly exposing their machinations for the world to see without abandon! Supposedly Chinese social media is awash with discussion of this tabletop exercise âprophesyingâ Monkeypox.
See, it even roughly predicts the outbreak timing:
How daft do TPTB think we are - brothers and sisters - as we see them flaunt their hand in such brazen fashion!
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A few days ago the UKâs National Health Service (NHS) edited their Monkeypox page to alter the narrative in a few key ways.
Firstly, they removed a paragraph from the âHow do you get Monkeypox?â section.
Up until a few days ago, according to archived links, the Monkeypox page said this, regarding person-to-person tranmission [emphasis added]:
Itâs very uncommon to get monkeypox from a person with the infection because it does not spread easily between people .
âŠthis has now been totally removed.
Secondly, theyâve removed this paragraph, which was present up until at least November of 2021 (and maybe much more recently, there are no archives between November and May) [emphasis added]:
[Monkeypox] is usually a mild illness that will get better on its own without treatment . Some people can develop more serious symptoms, so patients with monkeypox in the UK are cared for in specialist hospitals.
The new âtreatmentâ paragraph reads [again, emphasis added]âŠ
Treatment for monkeypox aims to relieve symptoms. The illness is usually mild and most people recover in 2 to 4 weeks [âŠ] You may need to stay in a specialist hospital, so your symptoms can be treated and to prevent the infection spreading to other people .
So, they remove that it will âget better on its ownâ, and again reinforce the idea of spreading the disease despite this being described as âvery uncommonâ as recently as last week.
They even add a line about self-isolating, which was never mentioned before:
as monkeypox can spread if there is close contact, you will need to be isolated if youâre diagnosed with it.
Finally, they now include a warning you can get Monkeypox by eating undercooked meat, which will doubtless feed into the anti-meat narrative too (oh, wait, it already is).
To sum up, history is being re-written a little here.
Before, monkeypox âdid not spread easily between peopleâ . Now it does.
Before, monkeypox would âget better on its own without treatmentâ . Now it wonât.
Itâs early days to say that Monkeypox is going to be the ânew Covidâ, and maybe this rollout will stall and be forgotten in a couple of weeks, but thereâs no doubt they are taking some tips from the Covid playbook so far.
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