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[quote=“belgian pie”]
Guys, how many users of both OS’s are scripting? 1-2%, so I guess it’s not really relevant.[/quote]
When it’s a question of what is the limit of how productive you can be, scripting becomes important. 
in a work environment, many complex workflows can be automated thru scripting. For stuff like design, plenty of people script Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, and Quark.
[quote=“ceevee369”]I bought a new laptop a few days ago and there is a sticker on it mentionning “WINDOWS VISTA READY”
Is this just another marketing trick from ASUS, or will there be some benefits already taken off pro-actively?[/quote]
Microsoft long ago released the hardware reqs for Vista. There’s Vista Capable and Vista Premium Ready.
Will the end-consumer who downloaded the Vista Release candidate receive a better deal when they register Vista officially? Just wondering as pre-sales are always more interesting than ordering after release at least for other soft’s…
@Mother Terrsa
With the upcoming release of Microsoft’s Vista, all [new] computer displays will be required to have basic functionality in their firmware to take advantage of software controls that will be integrated into the Vista operating system, [if they are to be sold as part of a system carrying the Designed for Windows logo].
I hope that makes things clearer.
The Designed for Windows logo program is like the Intel Inside program and the Designed for iPod scheme, it gives manufacturers who agree to certain procedures access to benefits such as volume discounts and co-marketing funds, but does not affect functionality and is not compulsory.
Apple could be getting serious amounts of money if they just put an “Intel Inside” sticker on each machine they sold, and included the official logo on their marketing media. They have chosen not too but that doesn’t mean that the Intel components inside their machines are any different to those in other PCs or operate any differently.
@gary
Scripting. Sure I use .bat files to launch programs all the time 
Joking aside I’m not really sure why Windows users don’t have a culture of scripting. I presume VB Script is powerful enough (it’s been used to write some fairly effective viruses) but maybe it was too complicated, lacked features, or some other aspect. Nowadays I think all the security needed to protect a Windows system from viruses makes using scripts difficult or inconvenient to use, but to be honest I don’t really know.
I would be interested in seeing Apple script in action, is this the sort of stuff that comes up in the Apple Get-togethers?
@ ceevee369
The Windows Vista Premium Ready sticker is an interim replacement for the Designed for Windows logo. You probably won’t get any benefits from it on that system, but you can expect that there will be Vista drivers and support for it, if you choose to upgrade.
[quote=“Rik”]@gary
Scripting. Sure I use .bat files to launch programs all the time
Joking aside I’m not really sure why Windows users don’t have a culture of scripting. I presume VB Script is powerful enough (it’s been used to write some fairly effective viruses) but maybe it was too complicated, lacked features, or some other aspect. Nowadays I think all the security needed to protect a Windows system from viruses makes using scripts difficult or inconvenient to use, but to be honest I don’t really know.
I would be interested in seeing Apple script in action, is this the sort of stuff that comes up in the Apple Get-togethers?
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You probably won’t see many Apple users script in person. It’s far more common than with Windows users but probably not as much as unix/linux.
I’m not sure why VB isn’t commonly used by Windows power users. It is more complex, perhaps Microsoft hasn’t encouraged and provided enough tools to let experienced programmers easily make their programs scriptable. I wouldn’t think security is an issue. A script should be able to do anything a user is allowed to do. Security would be applied to the greater issue of user access.
When you look at AppleScript and VBScript forums, it’s much more common for users to AppleScript everyday applications like Mail, Safari, Address Book, iTunes, or iPhoto.
Like in the past month, I scanned all my family photos. Since they don’t have EXIF data for the date taken, I named the files “1980-01-01 photo name”… I could highlight the files in the finder or iPhoto and run a script that would take the selected photos and run commands to add metadata.
In the past 2 days I changed how I label my music files. I used to label album titles by placing the CD title in the album name, like “Biograph CD3” I wanted to change to use the ID3 tags for CD number, so it’d be “Biograph” cd 3 of 3. I scripted this so instead of manually changing thousands of tracks, I could highlight them in iTunes and run a script.
Most experiences Mac developers make their apps scriptable and it saves so much time. Scripts can be accessed thru a system-wide script menu. When AppleScript came about, QuarkXpress was one of the first major scriptable apps and it quickly caught on. Plently of people script unix and you can see how it’s very useful.
Back to Vista, if I were using Windows, I’d probably use Vista RC1 as my main OS. The compatability is now good enough for it. And what you’d get is worth the trouble of using a pre-release. Same for Office 2007.
Anyway… they are now accepting new testers if you didn’t register in June. Go to the link in the OP to download the lastest beta that will work until June 2007.
Yes, and it’s called Vista ultimate
I don’t see any link in the OP.
I don’t see any link in the OP.[/quote]Sorry, I thought there was one, I didn’t check, maybe it was another thread. Anyway, try here: microsoft.com/windowsvista/g … fault.mspx
It’s worth following the link to at least get the serial number. If you don’t want to try it yet, you can get the serial and download RC1 at a later date, even after the RC1 preview has closed.
Windows Vista Home Basic
200 euros or 255.55$ or 135.95 pounds
Windows Vista Home Premium
400 euros or 511.10$ or 271.90 pounds
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition
500 euros or 638.88$ or 339.87 pounds
Windows Vista Business
650 euros or 830.54$ or 441.84 pounds
Windows Vista Enterprise
800 euros or 1,022.20$ or 543.80 pounds
These prices are pretty ridiculous. Ill be sticking with Linux/xp partition for games.
[quote]WINDOWS VISTA, the latest iteration of Microsoft’s operating system, is finally here. It was officially released to corporate users last week and will be available to consumers on Jan. 30. But now that Vista is ready, will your computer be? And what will be involved in an upgrade?
Microsoft says Vista offers increased security, along with an improved search function, an excellent calendar program, improved networking and a sidebar with quick access to mini-programs called gadgets. With the right display adapter, some editions of Vista will also offer a new interface called Aero that lets you preview what is inside a running program by placing your cursor over its thumbnail in the task bar.
It will be possible for many PC users to spend $99 to $259 to purchase a Vista DVD to upgrade their existing Windows XP machines. But before you do that, you need to take a good look at your PC as well as your peripherals and software. If your system isn’t quite compatible, it might be possible to make it ready for Vista with some additional memory or perhaps a new video card.
Even if your PC is Vista-ready, that doesn’t mean you should buy the upgrade kit. For most users, especially those whose hardware isn’t quite up to speed, it might make sense to wait until it’s time for a new PC.
The easiest way to get Vista is to buy a new PC after Jan. 30. . . . . .[/quote]
nytimes.com/2006/12/07/techn … ei=5087%0A
Any thoughts on this?
[quote]Peter Guttman, the University of Auckland Computer Science researcher, who has created a global storm over claims Microsoft’s Vista is seriously compromised by digital rights management software, is refusing to back down on his claims.
Guttman, a specialist in security techniques and systems, says he stands by the claims he made in a 13,000-word post, A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection, that DRM software embedded within Microsoft’s flagship operating system will seriously degrade performance and is effectively the “longest suicide note in history” for the software giant.
Unsurprisingly, his claims have led to a flood of emails and calls from the world’s media.
“Half the planet has been flooding me with emails,” Guttman told m-net today. “It started as a post for the security community just before Christmas and somehow it was posted on Slashdot. It was then picked up by the Guardian, The Times and The New York Times. Within days it just exploded,” he said. . .
“It’s not that your computer is going to explode or anything; the issue is really about the hidden costs of DRM. The main effect will be the hidden costs of hardware development, because you have to put more features in to handle it. Drivers will take so much longer to develop… It’s such a step backwards because you take something that worked really well and then hobble it.”
However, Guttman also warned IT managers to be wary about installing Vista onto mission critical machines. “I would be nervous,” he confirmed. “It is possible that it will work just fine, but because this software is so deeply hidden, you just can’t say.” . . . [/quote]
m-net.net.nz/latest-news/latest- … claims.php
To your first post, there is a MS software which can check how your PC runs under Vista
microsoft.com/windowsvista/g … fault.mspx
Has anybody upgraded to Vista yet?
[color=red]I have just merged a couple of thread that were disscussing the subject of Windows Vista and to upgrade or not to upgrade. Do not start a new thread unless it is on a disrelated subject. Thanks.[/color]
I got the corporate edition from some friendly guy , but i am simply too afraid to upgrade even though my system is 150% compliant.
Heard too many stories of non-reversable installations resulting in formated drives. Will give it time untill their first SP1 comes out. Play safe, but on this one a condom does not help I guess hehe…
I have the trail version RC1 … it’s valid until June
MS has announced that it plans to support WinXP for at least 5, and probably 7, more years.
Heck…I was happy with Win98SE on my old box. WinXP Pro is fine by me. If I do anything drastic it’ll probably be a switch to Mac. But that isn’t going to happen anytime soon.