My Cats and Kittens

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Of cats and Kittens the running saga of raising Savannah kittens in a house already with three adult cats

Nobody needs five cats my friend says

Quite right but yet here we are

Poyay the big bully Tom cat was the main worry but he has now calmed down and taken up his new job of supervising the kittens

Miura and Lady Dior who will be 12 weeks old next week. The adults were kittens four years ago

Besides the dominant male we have a bossy sister of his we call Bunny and a super shy runt of the liter male called Goldie

Goldie as exiled himself to the guest bedroom due constant bullying by Poyay

This is a problem

Lucky Poy has come around and doesn’t whack the kittens anymore

He’s become rather tolerant and even goes and checks on the kittens often. They are not far from him nor is he from them

Also growled at Bunny today for whacking one of the kittens

The kittens are super sweet and wants to cuddle with the big cats but are met with growls and hisses and whacks

Was nice to see Poy lick one of the kittens when she tried to snuggle with him on his cat bed which he was territorial about

First he hissed at her but felt bad so licked her but then hissed again to tell the kitten to go somewhere else

I fear the adults may make these kittens mean

They really should be in a home with just themselves

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Its the third week they have been here i think . and much progress has been made. They have become well adapted to this house and are no longer fearful if they dont see one another. Miura likes to sleep on the living room couch and Lady D likes to sleep on the dresser in the guest room along with Goldie (under the bed) and Bunny (on top of the bed). Poyay usually sleeps in the cat bed in the living room too. Last night i had him sleep with me with the door closed. He seems under the weather yesterday. Had a very hot nose all day and was lethargic and i was afraid he had caught something from the kittens because the kittens have not been vaccinated yet. I am sure there is some sort of danger to introduce cats (or kittens) to a home where there are existing cats if they have not been vaccinated. However the kittens dont appear ill and our cats have been vaccinated. Still it was odd that Poy was apparently not himself all yesterday and all night. Lucky this morning he seems to be back to his old self. I was wondering also if he was feeling the stress of having these two kittens zooming around the house every few hours.He has reached a sort of detente with the kittens now though and I dont see him whacking them anymore. Which is great.

Bunny on the other hand is still working on it. She starts to nose to nose with the kittens now but then other times she whackes them after hissing at them if they surprise her as they are wont to do while doing their zoomies.

I am actually surprised how well behaved these kittens are. They really have been extremely well behaved (outside of sweeping everything on the mantle onto the floor as they wanted that space). They will wait till i clean the liter box and then the both of them will do their business right then so i can clean it up. If one poos the other poos, if one pees the other pees, in unison almost.

I really am amazed how very well behaved these kittens are. Really amazed. Smudgey as a kitten was not as well behaved. And my current three cats when they were kittens they were not as well behaved either. Their manners came later. But these little guys are nose to nose with the two Scottish Fold kittens for best behavior. And they are extremely affectionate also close by to a human and likes to snuggle either with me or with Tammy (Tammy watches tv in the bedroom while my tv is in the living room…she likes to hang out in the bedroom out of habit).

Now here comes some more stories yet to come. The two Scottish Folds mommy is going to visit her home country in central america starting tomorrow for two weeks (her whole family is going) so the Folds will be spending two weeks with us starting tomorrow. My big cats have met them and are ok with them, i wouldnt say close but ok. Since the Folds have spent several weekends here already. Now i am wondering how the Savanna kittens are going to be with the two Fold kittens. Maybe being kittens themselves and right around the same age they will all get along famously. The folds are two bros and these savannahs are two girls. Maybe there wont be any problems. We will see tomorrow. And I wonder if my three adults cats will feel its all too much to handle with FOUR kittens running loose in the house. They may go off the rails and start whacking everyone i dont know. We will see.

These are the Scottish Folds coming for a two week visit

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i honestly feel the house is perfect with two cats. I am looking for the perfect home for Goldie as he seems permanently scared of bullly Ollie. I was hoping he will see the kittens dont spare a thought for Ollie and are not in any way afraid of him that Goldie will pick up on that and develop some backbone against bully ollie.

I must admit i am starting to like Miura though ( a bit more than Lady D) because Miura comes to snuggle with me more and runs as quick as she can to me when I come home. Poy is the only other one that greets me at the door when I come home. Bunny will do at times, Lady D will as well if shes not too far from the door, but Miura runs as fast as she can to greet me. Quite endearing.

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Thank God we are not having F1 savannahs
Not to mention the 20 to 25000usd cost they are semi wild and may not do well with existing pets

Ours are F5 so much easier
Still ours vocalizes some sounds that are very not cat like and kinda scares my cats

And even though they are kittens they can be LOUD
You can hear them downstairs

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Well the Folds are here and they are twice the size they were a few weeks ago on their last visit

Now everyone is hissing and swatting at everyone. And we are busy assigning rooms to them

Folds and Goldie will be in one room . Goldie is more tolerant and does not use force

Savannah will be allowed guest room and the rest of the house along with Poy and Bunny S they have largely come to a Detente

The Scottish Folds are the very cutest but I wish two weeks are up and they are going home lol

The place is now infested with cats

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The poor Folds being extremely gentle cats are very unhappy to be here this time

They are at odds with the Semi wild savannahs and fear them. They have a sense that these are not normal cats. I understand that folds are related to the very friendly British shorthair cats of which Poy and Bummy and Goldie are also related to. But they sense the savannahs are not normal
Cats and fear them intuitively

The 12pct wild cat these F5 savannahs are is the reason they have not in the least been afraid of Poy and bunny

And they want to roar over the folds to ensure they understand

When the folds used to visit they felt freedom and were very comfortable and happy but this time they are not
They are
Avoiding the savannahs who have made it their mission to tail them around the house

It will be Interesting what happens in these two weeks

The savannahs are using more of their wildcat vocalizations too since the folds got here

They don’t like the intruders

The savannahs are showing their wild side
They have previously not hissed or growled at our adult cats but are hissing and growling at the fold kittens

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How many cats are you keeping? You seem to be turning into a crazy cat man…

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Sometimes licking is a dominance display… :slightly_smiling_face:

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Yes, because I’ll lick you to show you who’s boss…

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I have three cats we rescued as kittens 4 years ago

Tammy’s friend bought two Scottish fold kittens about two months ago or so. These have been here a few weekends on visits

After a trip to a zoo in Mexico with Tammy where they came into contact with a few baby jaguars they read about cats that had more of a wild side and the friend and I suspect Tammy bought two kittens

One is supposed to be Tammy’s and one her friends

Tammy said she wanted a cat to replace whopper and has been constantly nagging for another Maine coon

She says her friend purchased these two savannahs but her mom said no more cats so they can’t stay with the friend

So they are living with us and it appears that they will be with us until they grow up and then one is going to be ours while the other is her friends

This way they can have matching cats they intend to take on walks on

Savanna take to walking on leashes like dogs apparently I suspect Tammy may have bought one of these savannahs

So instead of paying 1000 for a Maine coon kitten who knows how much these cats are

They run anywhere from 1000 to 5000

So now we have five cats and two folds visiting

I’m not happy with more cats and had told Tammy three is already one too many

Two cats are ideal

She said we had four and that was fine

So she’s probably involved with this Savannah scheme

Thinking we will be back to a four cat family

Well someone I know has four horses

I asked him why he needs four horses he said

Good question and you need to ask my wife

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It’s actually true aggressive licking is essentially hidden assault

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That feeling when you realize you married a crazy cat lady. :sweat_smile:

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That’s a lot of cat poop

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They are beautiful cats. I don’t know about houses in the US where there are lots of room, but in most Taiwanese 3 bedroom apartments, I do think having 2 is a good balance.

Regardless, they need lots of vertical space, and hopefully they are happy with the environment and the company we provide them.

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Savannahs are a lot more active, and many train them and walk them on a regular basis.

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So this is how I can find a partner to “dominate”, by licking him?

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I sometimes use my chin to groom my cats because in my mind my stubble at the end of a day probably feels like a cat’s tongue. My cats have never given me feed back on this though.

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If by “partner” you mean “cellmate.”

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You sir are weird :smiley_cat::smiley_cat:

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If they didn’t run away, I guess they don’t mind it.

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Maybe I should try that on Tammy

Cats have scent glands on the bottom of their chin and rub their chin on us to mark us as their’s

I’m not sure they rub each other with their chin though

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Beautiful. I’d like to have one like that.

Her cat is really cute, too.

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