Netanyahu

He implemented neoliberal reforms that made Israel a prosperous tech powerhouse.

For the peace process, he sucks.

Silver lining is that the Arab parties got 14 seats.

Haaretz said Jewish voters gave them two seats this time around. If they can lead the opposition, that’d be great.

Nah, it’s really a war over land, not religion. The founders of Israel were atheists.

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Most wars are. The other wars are about who’s right and who’s wrong. IMO the Israeli/Palestinian thing involves both factors: land and pigheadedness (on both sides).

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Do you think you could fill us in a bit more on this? Some of them at the time of the founding itself would have had good reason to be, seemingly, but were they all? What about the whole Zionist movement? Why does it matter anyway? Did they set a rule that it was an atheist state?

Probably not all. The father of the Zionist movement, Theodore Herzl, was an atheist. David Ben-Gurion, the person who led the actual creation of Israel and its first prime minister, was also an atheist. Does it matter? No, aside from lending to the fact that it’s not a religious war they’re fighting.

Since Israel has no Constitution and since many people inside Israel practice Judaism, I doubt there is a law. It’s officially an ethnic Jewish state.

What does this have to do with the thread title?

Last time Netanyahu didn’t get the most seats. But no one could form a government so Israel held elections again.
This time, Netanyahu won more seats than his rival.

That some of the people involved were atheists doesn’t change the entire religious dynamic. I wouldn’t call it a “religious war”, but I don’t see how it can be entirely removed from the equation.

It wasn’t just “some.” It’s both Israel’s conceptual creator and its actual creator.

Herzl asked the Pope if Jews would stop being persecuted if they all converted to Catholicism, and Pope said no. He just wanted to save his people. Main purpose of Israel was to shield Jews from persecution.

The Palestinians just want the land that they lost. It doesn’t even mention Jerusalem in the Koran. Ten percent of them (and probably 50 percent of their leadership) are Christians anyway.

There are religious elements to it because there are religious nationalists who believe the boundaries of Israel should enclose all of its Biblical boundaries. But that’s not what the conflict is primarily about.

Certainly, but that’s not all there is to it at this point.

What else is there to it?

There’s a regional aspect to it, and the entire Muslim world supports the Palestianian cause.

That’s the people who support Palestinians. And that might be cracking right now. The Gulf states are forming an unofficial anti-Iran alliance with Israel. Evangelical Christians mostly support Israel for theological reasons, it’s true.

The Palestinians themselves though, they’re just attached to their land.

Also, if you look on American college campuses, most non-Muslim, non-Arab people supporting Palestinians are Jewish.

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This sounds made up. Do you have a source?

I would bet that a great many evangelical Christians support Israel because Israel’s post-war existence has been like that of David v the Goliath the Muslim states make up there.

Israelis have take in capitalists, socialists, communists and thanks to a shared faith they’ve made it work, all while fending off Islamic terrorists. That’s pretty admirable in anybody’s book.

No, more like they want Jews to move there to fulfill prophecy by escalating the conflict and bring about the second coming of the Messiah.
Source:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/14/half-of-evangelicals-support-israel-because-they-believe-it-is-important-for-fulfilling-end-times-prophecy/%3FoutputType%3Damp

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Arab joint list with 15 seats! Holy cow.

I want Netanyahu gone as much as anyone, but he clearly isn’t so I edited the header.

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Whoops, my bad. You’re listing WaPo and NPR as sources, and those sources are among the InfoWars-level extreme partisans of the leftist media.

Instead I should have asked, do you have impartial sources that support your conclusion that Evangelical Christians mostly support Israel for theological reasons?

Perhaps you have even one source that takes the radical step of actually asking evangelical Christians themselves what is behind their support for Israel?