New legislation- TARC still needed for NWOHR?

[newhere]

Another reddit thread for those considering the settlement permit route
https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/1ezrns7/applying_for_a_定居證副本_from_teco_long_post/

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Just got my 定居證, was quite confused at first because its called “ENTRY AND EXIT PERMIT”, but apparently that’s the Residency Certificate.

It has my code as AF405 which I assume is a new code for the 2024 changes?

Wondering what the difference is with the Entry Permit sticker in my NWHOR passport?

[hikkymemo]

That piece of paper is both an entry and exit permit as well as the residency certificate copy. Without this you have no permission to enter the country (and if you enter the country with other permission, they will yell at you). The customs officer will collect this piece of paper from you and then return it. You will then take the same piece of paper and bring it to NIA.

The Entry Permit sticker in your NWHOR passport is just that; a 90 day entry permit. It allows you to stay in the country for 90 days and nothing else.

[newhere]

Yea, one other guy reported the same code AF405 getting his 定居證副本, grats!

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@hikkymemo

That piece of paper is both an entry and exit permit as well as the residency certificate copy. Without this you have no permission to enter the country (and if you enter the country with other permission, they will yell at you). The customs officer will collect this piece of paper from you and then return it. You will then take the same piece of paper and bring it to NIA.

The Entry Permit sticker in your NWHOR passport is just that; a 90 day entry permit. It allows you to stay in the country for 90 days and nothing else.

I remember applying for that Entry Permit as part of my NWHOR passport but I don’t understand the purpose of it then. Was it because before 2024 this was the permit necessary to enter on a NWHOR passport?

EDIT: found the answer

@justintaiwan

Entry permits were abolished at the beginning the year

https://www.immigration.gov.tw/media/101183/regulations-for-newly-revised-immigration-act-effective-as-of-january-1-2024.pdf

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@newhere

Yea, one other guy reported the same code AF405 getting his 定居證副本, grats!

Thank you! It’s been a looong journey and its not over yet, will be heading to Taiwan to finish the process in December.

[hikkymemo]

I applied at the beginning of this year and the code used was AF405 定居 as well. BTW, they issue the Entry/Exit Permit-titled paper even when you initiate the application from within the country.

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@Kabob8

If you want to move here, make sure to ask about whether you can establish HHR at the apartment and make it a condition of agreeing to the lease. It maybe helps to work with a real estate agent because they can address the landlord’s worries about it affecting their taxes (in theory it shouldn’t). Most landlords don’t proactively allow you to establish/move HHR there, but many would probably be willing once you address their tax concerns.

If you don’t plan on living here, you can look for a landlord who is only renting out the address for HHR, like by trying a search for 戶籍 on 591.com.tw and sorting by the cheapest total rent. They generally ask for a year’s worth of rent upfront and let you borrow the property tax bill that you need to establish HHR. After the lease is up, they’ll move your HHR to the local HRO, but that means you can keep HHR without having to pay rent.

Requoting this comment as I’m now coming upon a new roadblock.

The only family I have in Taiwan is my cousin and his family. He’s being very flaky about adding me to his Household registration. I have no Taiwanese friends that I am close with. I may need a Plan B, but not seeing anything related to “戶籍” when I search. Is my only option to message the cheapest listings and asking them if I can use their documents for Household registration?

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Along the same lines: I can’t find a definitive answer to another HHR question:

What exactly do I need to be added to someone’s HHR?

• 戶口名簿 or 戶籍謄本 (or either?)
• Do I need their chop?
• Do I need their National ID?
• Do I need them to be physically present?