New legislation- TARC still needed for NWOHR?

[remotercharm]

@Hayashi

Now, one interesting wrinkle that I haven’t seen specifically discussed is what needs to be done if the NWHR parent left Taiwan before marriage overseas and before having a child overseas, then passes away overseas. Then, the NWOHR child wants to apply for citizenship/HHR.

this is my situation, but i am going to try and see what happens. i already have the NWOHR passport.

[Hayashi]

@remotercharm

this is my situation, but i am going to try and see what happens. i already have the NWOHR passport.

Please keep us updated on how it goes! I think it can be done, but the question is how many hoops they will make you jump through.

Did you have any unusual problems getting the NWOHR passport?

[remotercharm]

@Hayashi

Please keep us updated on how it goes! I think it can be done, but the question is how many hoops they will make you jump through.

Did you have any unusual problems getting the NWOHR passport?

Have you tried messaging Tecro with your questions?

I didn’t have any problems with my NWOHR passport. Teco LA where I did it was very helpful. My relatives in Taiwan got her household registration for me for the passport. It looks like its the registration from her first few years of life before her parents died and she moved into a state orphanage until adulthood just outside Taipei. My only concern is trying to retrieve some “most recent” household registration if it exists but thankfully I have family that can help me. I’m hoping since it worked for the passport it will work for the citizenship process and I won’t need to prove anything else.

[ppp]

@remotercharm

I didn’t have any problems with my NWOHR passport. Teco LA where I did it was very helpful. My relatives in Taiwan got her household registration for me for the passport.

lucky you

[Oath]

@Oath

Along the same lines: I can’t find a definitive answer to another HHR question:

What exactly do I need to be added to someone’s HHR?

• 戶口名簿 or 戶籍謄本 (or either?)
• Do I need their chop?
• Do I need their National ID?
• Do I need them to be physically present?

Bumping this question. What exactly do I need once I go to the HHR office with my settlement certificate?

[hikkymemo]

I joined my mom’s household register with only her national ID.

[springonion]

@Oath

Along the same lines: I can’t find a definitive answer to another HHR question:

What exactly do I need to be added to someone’s HHR?

• 戶口名簿 or 戶籍謄本 (or either?)
• Do I need their chop?
• Do I need their National ID?
• Do I need them to be physically present?

I just recently moved house and joined my new landlord’s HHR…while I was there at the HHR, I asked the officer this same question. This was his reply:

1. If you’re joining the HHR of someone who is a direct relative of yours (直系親屬), e.g Parent’s, siblings etc, you’ll only need to bring their HHR booklet (戶口名簿) or ID card of the Head of the Household. No chop is required and they don’t need to be physically present.

2. If you’re joining the HHR of anyone else that you have no direct relation to, e.g, Friend, Landlord, then you’ll need to either bring a notarized copy of the Rental contract or House tax receipt (房屋稅單). No chop is required and the owner of the house don’t need to be physically present.

[Oath]

@springonion

@Oath

Along the same lines: I can’t find a definitive answer to another HHR question:

What exactly do I need to be added to someone’s HHR?

• 戶口名簿 or 戶籍謄本 (or either?)
• Do I need their chop?
• Do I need their National ID?
• Do I need them to be physically present?

I just recently moved house and joined my new landlord’s HHR…while I was there at the HHR, I asked the officer this same question. This was his reply:

1. If you’re joining the HHR of someone who is a direct relative of yours (直系親屬), e.g Parent’s, siblings etc, you’ll only need to bring their HHR booklet (戶口名簿) or ID card of the Head of the Household. No chop is required and they don’t need to be physically present.

2. If you’re joining the HHR of anyone else that you have no direct relation to, e.g, Friend, Landlord, then you’ll need to either bring a notarized copy of the Rental contract or House tax receipt (房屋稅單). No chop is required and the owner of the house don’t need to be physically present.

Interesting… so I’ve been begging my cousin for his 戶口名簿 and now I’ll need to beg him for his 房屋稅單 instead?

EDIT: I asked ChatGPT about the 房屋稅單 since I can’t get a clear answer from Googling. I don’t know how accurate it is - asking TECO now for clarification.

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1. If You’re Joining the HHR of a Direct Relative (直系親屬):

• If the person is a direct relative (like parents, children, or siblings), you don’t need them to be present, and you don’t need a 房屋稅單 (house tax receipt) or a rental contract.
• You only need their 戶口名簿 (Household Registration Booklet) or their ID card.

2. If You’re Joining the HHR of a Collateral Relative (like your Uncle):

• Uncles and aunts are considered collateral relatives (旁系親屬), not direct relatives. This means the process can vary depending on the Household Registration Office’s interpretation of the rules.
• Some offices may treat uncles as close enough to allow you to join the HHR with just the 戶口名簿 and proof of relationship (like your father’s old 戶口名簿 showing the connection).
• However, other offices may require additional verification since it’s not a direct parent-child or sibling relationship. In these cases, the 房屋稅單 or a rental contract might be required to prove you have a legitimate claim to live there.

Why I Originally Mentioned Going with Your Uncle:

• In cases where the relationship is not as clear-cut (like with collateral relatives), it’s often easier if the head of the household (your uncle) goes with you to the office. This simplifies the verification process, as he can confirm your relationship and give immediate consent in person.
• If your uncle cannot go with you, the office may still accept just his 戶口名簿 and proof of relationship. However, policies can vary slightly between offices, so checking directly with the specific Household Registration Office is the best way to confirm.

Summary:

• For direct relatives: Only the 戶口名簿 or ID is needed; the relative doesn’t have to be present.
• For collateral relatives (like your uncle): The process may vary. The office might accept just the 戶口名簿 and proof of relationship, but bringing your uncle along can help, or you may be required to provide additional documentation like a 房屋稅單.

[Oath]

A question as I’m preparing for my trip to Taiwan:

If I already have a copy of the Residence Permit through TECO, do I still need to bring all the documents (FBI, health check) and my parents’ passports when I go to NIA to exchange?

[newhere]

You probably won’t need it for the residence permit exchange but others have mentioned some of those documents may be required in the other processes so best bring them along.

[Oath]

Hi all,

Currently in Taipei going through the process. Will leave notes to help future applicants as I’ve bumped into gotchas (mostly relevant to military age males) that haven’t been noted before in this thread, nor in any other resource I’ve read online.

1. At NIA, when you request the Certificate of Entry/Exit Records for your NWOHR passport, they base it off the previous day. I landed in TPE at 5AM Monday and went to NIA the same day so the Certificate showed no entry. So I had to request another Certificate of Entry/Exit when I went to pick up my Residence Certificate. Picked up the Residence Certificate at 8AM on Thursday - 3 business days (for the copy exchange)

2. I took my cousin’s 戶口名簿 to his HHR office to register under his household and get my 身分證. The worker not only asked for my relation to him, but also asked to see my father’s ancient 戶口名簿 from 40 years ago…good thing I brought it. Not sure why they needed it as his HHR has been moved out since the 80s. I assume it was so she could look up how I am related to my cousin? She also asked where my parents were married but didn’t ask to see their marriage certificate.

3. At OCAC, the worker brought over two other employees to check my Certificates of Entry/Exit and were combing thoroughly through my US passport and NWOHR passport. This reddit thread made it out to be seamless but its not - the employee told me they had to verify something (my Chinese vocabulary is limited so I didn’t understand what the issue was). I couldn’t pick up my Overseas Compatriot endorsement until the next day, contrary to that reddit thread saying it only takes 20 min.

4. I got a call same day from the conscription agency, again contrary to that reddit thread saying they’ll call you a few days later. I explained I was waiting for my OCAC letter and they said OK, bring your passport with the Overseas Compatriot stamp to the office ASAP.

5. At BOCA, I had to fill out another form after I gave them the letter from OCAC. The worker told me she had never seen the OCAC letter before which was concerning…

6. I got another call from the same person conscription agency after I dropped off my passport application - told them “hey I already told you I’m waiting for my passport from BOCA, I’ll bring it to you with the Overseas Compatriot stamp as soon as I get it…” so I’d recommend all military age males to pay for expedited passport processing to stop being hassled

I am currently waiting for my passport, will update if I run into any other gotchas. Note: this whole process in Taipei will require proficiency in Mandarin. Bring someone to help if you don’t have decent Mandarin or you’ll be stressed tf out.

[hikkymemo]

This reddit thread made it out to be seamless but its not - the employee told me they had to verify something (my Chinese vocabulary is limited so I didn’t understand what the issue was). I couldn’t pick up my Overseas Compatriot endorsement until the next day, contrary to that reddit thread saying it only takes 20 min.

I had the same experience, but the verification sounded like part of their normal procedure.

At BOCA, I had to fill out another form after I gave them the letter from OCAC. The worker told me she had never seen the OCAC letter before which was concerning…

The worker I talked to had no trouble understanding the OCAC letter.