百靈果News Podcast - Commenting on Foreigners in Taiwan

The interviews are the best part of the show. The hosts are what detract from it. Their commentary on US politics/current events just plays up stereotypes in a poor attempt at humor. If I want that, I’ll frequent the IP forum here :wink:. They get a lot of facts wrong too.

I was just surprised how blatantly discriminatory their comments on foreigners were with no attempt to qualify. As if it’s just ok to take shots at all foreigners since there’ll be no repercussions.

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Yeah that’s why I only listen to the KKshow because I find their analysis of Western politics to be pretty banal. But I respect the initiative to make international news interesting to Taiwanese.

Most older Taiwanese for years when responsible for programming just force fed younger people with the most inane bullshit, but the success of stuff like Bailinguo and the Reporter shows that there is a market for more cerebral content and international issues.

They are much better when talking about taiwan and China.

The go back to your own country stuff is just not on and really disappointing from them

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They are racists, so no I will not support those pr…ks.

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Same reason I don’t support Falun Gong. They should get to keep their own organs, but all that anti-misogamy crap doesn’t sit well with me. If they did something well, I’d give them a little attention as I do so many others who are complex, but somethings aren’t worth my time.
I may be misremembering, but aren’t the pair on the show ABCs who came to Taiwan from the US or something?

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Would be pretty ironic if the discussion he was refering to actually ended up being people talking about the abuse of migrant workers throughout this pandemic and their horrid living conditions and restrictions…

Really? Well if they look down on English teachers. Maybe someone should ask them why they couldn’t make it in the US?

Don’t quote me on it, I’m probably wrong. Maybe it was that they studied abroad.

By the way, since both the hosts often ridicule “political correctness”, take pride in and brand themselves as “politically incorrect”, which they really aren’t. None of the criticisms about them reinforcing stereotypes of expats would likely phase them, as they would probably hype it up as them being attacked by the PC police.

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I noticed in their conversing they break into English occasionally. Is this done for expressiveness? If so that is really curious to me, I struggle to understand how it could be more natural to express yourself a second, not your native, tongue.

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It’s called bailingguo which is a transliteration of the word bilingual.

The show is supposed to be a mix of English and Chinese, but really they just speak Chinese most of the time

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I think it’s more to show off what experts they are or how they’re so Americanized. They like to throw in an expletive here and there like 凱莉 shouting "What the fuck?"all the time.

You can tell when they read a paragraph in English they’re definitely not native speakers. I looked up 凱莉‘s wiki and she just did college in the US.

Ken’s bits of cultural insight are also funny. On a recent episode he said when he was doing his MBA abroad his professor taught him the phrase: “Talk is cheap. Money is real.” So the main takeaway from your MBA is to quote an idiom you can get out of any English textbook?

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I think it’s “start a podcast”.

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It’s how some people in Taiwan express how 'worldly 'they are by mixing random English into the conversations.
It’s really common.

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Especially when they see you walking by.

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凱莉 studied translation in the US, I think, so her English should be at a level.Ken lived like ten years through high school in Canada. They are both supposed to be bilingual

I also like Fan Chi 范琪斐, although her Line news is not my thing. I think she is a real journalist and trying to bring back some kind of integrity to reporting in Taiwan.

Basically Fan was the US correspondent for CITV before was bought out by CCP and when Taiwan had proper journalism. She lived in the US for 20 years and came back and found the whole of the Taiwan media and journalism landscape a total fucking shitshow. I like it when she is on Bailingguo and the shows she does

This is the really popular show she does on Line to introduce international news issues

This is a show they did in English with AIT guy

The classic 'lets suddenly start talking English to my dog /infant/kid/colleague ’ when the foreigner walks by … :grin::grinning::sunglasses:

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Could only watch the first minute or so. She jokes her guest’s Mandarin is bad right there in front of him in Mandarin, and her male cohost is there slouching back in his chair. Whole picture just comes off a little bad-mannered to me.

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Thought was cool they brought a diplomat on and were talking so freely.

They seem to up their game when a foreigner sits nearby too. Parents in parks do it too. When they see me, they start speaking to their kid in English. It is funny when their kid doesn’t understand and even asks them why they are speaking English.

Edit. I read in to see that others have already mentioned this situation

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