Thinking of returning to Taiwan to be close to my boys. Have got different answers from different lawyers, but conclude that I need to prepare for the possibility of going to prison, even if it is just awaiting trial and for some reason they won’t accept bail. That could be for months. I won’t know until I arrive in Taiwan.
If I am not allowed to take my laptop and have internet access in prison, I will lose my business and livelihood, my clients are just going to go elsewhere. What is the policy in TW prisons on personal computer equipment ? And internet access ? I guess I could always get a Wifi dongle even if the prison didn’t have it’s own Wifi system ?
And apart from that, anything else I need to know ? Like am I going to need a good supply of vaseline if I become some gangster’s foreign bitch ?
Excuse me if these questions sound dumb, but having never been in the slammer before, and not knowing anyone that has- I just have no idea …
I kinda doubt there’d be Internet access in prison. Personally, I wouldn’t risk it.
If I remember your situation right, the mother of your kids doesn’t want you to see them anyway, so will going to Taiwan even give you that possibility? Otherwise she would agree to their visiting you in Malaysia or a third country…
Whatever happens, I wish you the best of luck, man…
[quote=“Chris”]I kinda doubt there’d be Internet access in prison. Personally, I wouldn’t risk it.
If I remember your situation right, the mother of your kids doesn’t want you to see them anyway, so will going to Taiwan even give you that possibility? Otherwise she would agree to their visiting you in Malaysia or a third country…
Whatever happens, I wish you the best of luck, man…[/quote]
Two boys, two different mothers, one will very likely want our son to be able to spend significant time with me, the other is doubtful at the moment but situation may improve. Visits outside Taiwan are possible in the future but not soon, I would think. Being able to return to Taiwan would just make life so much easier for all of us.
I finally found Forumosa’s original thread where Forumosa member Jello started his story about being required to do re-hab jail time and his wife as well. This thread was written pre-jail time and then he wrote the full story after the fact in those three previous threads that I linked.
[url=http://tw.forumosa.com/t/headed-for-6-8-weeks-in-a-rehab-jail-what-to-expect/58033/1 for 6-8 weeks in a “rehab” jail; what to expect?[/url]
[quote=“Northcoast Surfer”]I finally found Forumosa’s original thread where he started his story. This thread was written pre-jail time and then he wrote the full story after the fact in those three previous threads that I linked.
[url=http://tw.forumosa.com/t/headed-for-6-8-weeks-in-a-rehab-jail-what-to-expect/58033/1 for 6-8 weeks in a “rehab” jail; what to expect?[/url][/quote]
That is not what ringed a bell to me when seeing “PGdaddy”. I thought he had posted few years ago for advise regarding his son. ( leaving TW it was then) can vaguely remember a picture and French nationalit?
Looks like the OP did left with his son but his ex might have gone legal?
Doing business from inside the joint? Odd…
Oooh. And I almost forgot. Here’s an oldie, but a goodie. I seem to remember that the woman who was sentenced to jail for overstaying was a Macedonian who wasn’t involved in any drugs, but just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and that’s how she got caught.
Here’s the original thread regarding the drug bust where she got nabbed for overstaying by two years!
The woman’s (allegedly from Macedonia) complete story, “My ‘Hole’ Story” can be found through these links. Oops, I’m feeling a bit randy after reading her title again.
You know what? I haven’t found even one mention of Internet, WIFY, mobile phones, televisions, or even notebook computers in any of these jail stories. It’s a very good possibility that these items aren’t available to inmates within the Taiwan prison system.
[quote=“pgdaddy1”]
Two boys, two different mothers, one will very likely want our son to be able to spend significant time with me, the other is doubtful at the moment but situation may improve.[/quote]
Sounds like no arrest threat originating from Mom #1; I assume the threat originates from Mom #2? Is it possible to negotiate with her (i.e. your lawyer talk to hers) and remove any threat of arrest?
[quote=“pgdaddy1”][quote=“Chris”][quote=“pgdaddy1”]
Two boys, two different mothers, one will very likely want our son to be able to spend significant time with me, the other is doubtful at the moment but situation may improve.[/quote]
Sounds like no arrest threat originating from Mom #1; I assume the threat originates from Mom #2? Is it possible to negotiate with her (i.e. your lawyer talk to hers) and remove any threat of arrest?[/quote]
Chabuduo dui. Tried everything, unfortunately Mom 1 is not ready yet to make total peace and drop the charges. Have offered to increase the maintenance allowance or even a lump sum agreement but she is not interested. Mom 2 would like me to return to Taiwan, she would sure appreciate some help looking after our son …
NC Surfer, I read that guy’s blog before, doesn’t sound pleasant at all, didn’t see where it said “no internet/ laptop” though, but I will assume that there isn’t unless someone can prove otherwise !
CV, I am definitely in a dodgy business: accountant, never trust 'em- almost as bad as lawyers …[/quote]
Best to take legal advice ( Eiger?) upfront if not done yet. Look at potential charges and sentences for whatever you might be considered accountable for.
They sure will be able telling you what is and is not available inside.
[quote=“Chris”][quote=“pgdaddy1”]
Two boys, two different mothers, one will very likely want our son to be able to spend significant time with me, the other is doubtful at the moment but situation may improve.[/quote]
Sounds like no arrest threat originating from Mom #1; I assume the threat originates from Mom #2? Is it possible to negotiate with her (i.e. your lawyer talk to hers) and remove any threat of arrest?[/quote]
Chabuduo dui. Tried everything, unfortunately Mom 1 is not ready yet to make total peace and drop the charges. Have offered to increase the maintenance allowance or even a lump sum agreement but she is not interested. Mom 2 would like me to return to Taiwan, she would sure appreciate some help looking after our son …
NC Surfer, I read that guy’s blog before, doesn’t sound pleasant at all, didn’t see where it said “no internet/ laptop” though, but I will assume that there isn’t unless someone can prove otherwise !
CV, I am definitely in a dodgy business: accountant, never trust 'em- almost as bad as lawyers …[/quote][/quote]
How about putting it into terms that a Taiwanese can understand and appreciate. “Honey, I’m coming back to Taiwan. If you press charges against me, I’ll be jailed, I’ll lose my job, and after my prison sentence I’ll be deported never to return to Taiwan. I’m alright with that, but you might not be because that would mean that there WON’T BE ANY MONEY EVER AGAIN! So, let’s do what’s right for our son and not press charges against me. I’ll come back, be able to help you with a greater amount of financial stability. You only have two choices to consider. 1. - much better conditions with much, much more MONEY 2. - bad conditions, NO MONEY AT ALL EVER AGAIN!”
Pussy, whimpy jail time. You could do it standing on your head! It’s no big deal!
No. None. Sorry. After all, it isn’t a country club. You can have books, but unfortunately no notebook computers. I will be glad to bring you all kinds of books to comfort you while you are incarcerated.
Taiwan prisons are no walk in the park. Don’t be mistaken. The regimen is fierce and grinding. There may not be as much rape as in prisons in other countries, but it still happens.
I hope he’s getting advice from foreign lawyers and not from local ones. Or if foreign, knowledgeable ones. I find it strange that the lawyers would actually suggest him to do the time. :eh:
Nobody is saying he should volunteer to do jail time. I’m saying that if he absolutely needs to be with his kids, come back to Taiwan and damned be the consequences. If he has to do time, then do it like a man and put it behind him. But, he should first exhaust all avenues available to him to avoid doing time. This of course includes getting a Taiwanese lawyer, having proper counsel and finding out the worse case scenario that could befall him. Also, knowing that he won’t be able to take his notebook computer, have WIFY access and conduct his business on the outside from the inside of Taiwan’s prison system seems to be an important point to understand.
That’s why I think a good course of action would be to illustrate to the ex-wife that if she insists on pressing charges for the email hack allegation, that she would end up worse off and ultimately their son would suffer based on her actions. It would be much more advantageous to all concerned for the ex-wife to bury the hatchet (not in his head) and take all the money she can get and let pgdaddy return to Taiwan. Now, if she’s a psycho xiao-jie and she can’ see the wisdom in dropping the charges, then there’s not much he can do except come back to Taiwan, face the music and let the chips fall where they may.
I hope pgdaddy is able to come back to Taiwan and that his ex-wife follows the best course of action, drop the ridiculous charges.
It’s been so long since I’ve seen a “happy ending story” in Taiwan and pgdaddy’s could be the one to brighten my day!
I dunno. I doubt logic comes into it when negotiating with ex-wives. And then, as tommy says, if you’re in jail then you’re not much use to your kids. He would also have compounded the problem by (a) jeopardizing his source of income (b) demonstrating to his children that bad people always win and (c) acquiring a criminal record which will ensure he will not be able to do anything in Taiwan (should he find a way to stay) except become a taxi driver or a politician. I think it would be better to stay away, maintain whatever contact he can (email/phone) with the kids until they’re old enough to understand his side of the story and make their own life plans (and travel arrangements).
