I’ve never seen them bend over, dance, jump up and down, or twirl on the MRT. 
Good Grief! And folks wonder why there is a women’s forum!
Can we take pictures there?
I wrote this in December on another thread:
I saw a guy on the MRT this week taking photos of women. It ranged from school girls to adults. He was doing it conspicuously. I know because I could see the reflection in the window behind him. Then it looked like he was sending it to someone.
He was definitely chatting. He seemed to receive similar photos.
Maybe some pervert MRT blog.
I watched him (from the train) travel up an escalator (at his station) behind a woman with a short skirt on and and he had his phone in position.
We definitely need to get the URL of this MRT blog !
For science of course 
This is all severely screwed up. I take pictures of strangers all the time – but I do it with a gigantic SLR (i.e., conspicuously), and I am equal opportunity about it. People actually generally smile when they notice I’m taking a photo of them, but I’ve always wondered exactly how far (or close?) I’m able to go taking pictures in public before people start to feel uncomfortable. So far, no problems.
I saw a girl with the most exquisite feet on the MRT a few months ago. If I’d known it was ok, I would have gotten some photos. 
Maybe it starts from an early age…snigger.
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Valid reason for a gravedig IMHO. 
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It always feels to me like some girls are begging to be looked at down there. Could the reason be that there’s a general waning interest on the male side, thanks perhaps to decreasing male hormone levels and/or readily available porn online? I am not interested at all at looking at tight pants in public revealing almost everything. It’s a turn off more than anything. Vulgarity is not appealing to me.
What part of upskirt don’t you understand? 
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This headline makes it sound almost tasteful.
I’m actually wondering if she consented to being photographed. I don’t go around taking picture of people for this reason even if he/she wears an interesting T shirt.
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Well, she’s obviously looking for attention, but I think when young people do this, they’re just sounding themselves out. Finding out how stuff works (and how other people work). I don’t think it’s literally like a baboon flashing it’s brightly-coloured arse.
Do women feel a sense of power over men when they present the “goods”? It annoys the heck out of me that it’s in your field of vision, but you are not allowed to have a good look. That stupid game has always annoyed me. 
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I feel that some will play games like this. It’s why I prefer modestly dressed women to someone who draws attention like this.
Just don’t look. No one is forcing you.
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I suppose some do. A whole bunch of different reasons for it, though.
IMHO the most honest approach is to look, without any pretense that you’re not, and then look away. It signals “Ok, you’re hot, I see what you’re doing there, congrats”. If you’re not her target audience it gives her validation and disapproval simultaneously. I don’t see anything inherently wrong with young people making the most of it while it lasts.
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I think this is perhaps best viewed in context of a comment from ages ago:
To which the answer is, of course they know. Subtext of this particular post - not yours, Hannes - despite an admission of it being ‘rude’, seems to be “well if they know, then is it really, truly our fault for taking the pic?” Which of course, it is; it’s the classic “asking for it” attitude.
As for how to view why… I’m no expert, but for younger women I can think of a few things. One is trends, with revealing clothing certainly being in style here and there. The other side is a sort of rebellion – you can’t tell me what’s appropriate and inappropriate type attitude. There’s also a sense of maturity associated with it - high school girls of higher years rolling up the skirt to bring it higher, for example. And maybe they just like having less covered. Some dudes like shorts, some like pants type thing.
All of this certainly grants some form of empowerment towards, for example, individual choice. I think I’d argue that’s the strongest motivation?
I suppose it could be exerting power of sorts. The ability to bare a lot, see guys perving, and know you can say to yourself “you ain’t getting any of this” isn’t insignificant. And in a culture - and more generally, world - where women don’t statistically or practically command much power over men, the ability to inflame the loins while also denying that desire does imply not only a sort of empowerment, but also has elements of all of those above mentioned reasons why one does it. I don’t personally love it - I like clothing that looks more cute than sexy - but it definitely has the potential to assert a lot just through clothing.
Maybe I’m overthinking it. I talked about it with a woman one or two times, but she wasn’t the most risque in her outfits, although she did think about and probably talk to other women about it? Idk.
You ever read Lysistrata? Think that, but minus the war elements and casual sexism and rather not feminist intentions upon creation.
Kinda like a nice token nod to the outfit and body, as long as you’re not ogling, while also maintaining a level of respect to it. I generally just try to look for the eyes and take the rest in low definition peripheral vision as I personally don’t really like being looked at much. Living in the wrong country for that, mind you.
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