Ron Paul: Not Just a Nutjob — a Poorly Informed Nutjob

I heard some people in the clip yelling that Sean Hannity was a nutjob, too. Clearly a bunch of frenzied commies.

Here’s another video I couldn’t find it on youtube. One of the Paul Pod people infiltrated Frank Luntz’s focus group. You can hear one of them refer to Ron Paul as “America’s Savior”.

When Paulistas attack!

[url=http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080112/FRONTPAGE/801120412/1043/NEWS01] Paul supporters ‘freak out’ town clerk

Vote-counting flub draws ire, threats[/url]

So all this RP is a neo-Nazi supporter is bunk?

just checking… :whistle:

[quote=“jdsmith”]So all this RP is a neo-Nazi supporter is bunk?

just checking… :whistle:[/quote]
You workin’ for Hilary! or Barry O…?

:smiley:

[quote=“TainanCowboy”][quote=“jdsmith”]So all this RP is a neo-Nazi supporter is bunk?

just checking… :whistle:[/quote]
You workin’ for Hilary! or Barry O…?

:smiley:[/quote]
Nah, LGF has been beating this drum for a while. You should know that. :laughing:

“I was drained emotionally and physically,” Call said. “That’s when I really started to freak out. Thursday it hit me, that most of these people are not rational. That’s when I became scared.”

lol. can’t blame her

So why is Ron Paul a nut?

He thinks he could do away with the income tax.

He thinks he could do away with the income tax.[/quote]

For most of the history of the United States there was no income tax and it required an amendment to the Constitution to institute one. It should also not be forgotten that the catalyst for the Revolutionary War was onerous taxation so there’s a high likelihood that the founders of the United States deliberately omitted income taxation as part of their vision of government.

He’s not the only nut in the GOP who wants to do away with an income tax, btw:

[quote]Hastert Book Says GOP Plans to Abolish IRS
By Doug Patton
Talon News
August 2, 2004

WASHINGTON (Talon News) – Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL) writes in a new book that Congressional Republicans plan to push for the elimination of the Internal Revenue Service during a Bush second term.

The Drudge Report revealed Sunday that Hastert’s book, “Speaker: Lessons From Forty Years of Coaching and Politics,” discloses a plan by President Bush and the GOP Congress to replace the burdensome federal income tax with a national sales tax.

“People ask me if I’m really calling for the elimination of the IRS,” Hastert writes. “I say I think that’s a great thing to do for future generations of Americans.”

A growing number of Members of Congress have become supporters of the so-called “Fair Tax” (web site), a national sales tax on new consumer items. U.S. Reps. John Linder (R-GA) and Steve King (R-IA) have been vocal supporters of the plan.

“By adopting a sales tax, … we could begin to change productivity,” Hastert writes. “If you can do that, you can change gross national product and start growing the economy. You could double the economy over the next fifteen years.”

“All of a sudden, the problem of what future generations owe in Social Security and Medicare won’t be so daunting anymore,” Hastert continues. “The answer is to grow the economy, and the key to doing that is making sure we have a tax system that attracts capital and builds incentives to keep it here instead of forcing it out to other nations.”

King, who campaigned on the proposal during his first run for Congress in 2002, has said he believes the measure would pass if President Bush were to get behind it during his second term. He also believes that once taxpayers understand the ramifications of the change, they will embrace it.

“We need to stop taxing productivity,” King told Talon News. “As Ronald Reagan said, whatever you tax you get less of. I believe we should give taxpayers a one-year moratorium on withholding tax and let them keep everything they earn while trying the Fair Tax. Do that and they will never go back to the old system.” . . .

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REP. PAUL: Absolutely. Six hundred thousand Americans died in a senseless civil war. No, he shouldn’t have gone, gone to war. He did this just to enhance and get rid of the original intent of the republic. I mean, it was the–that iron, iron fist…

The republic was already riven when Lincoln went to war. He went to war to reunite it, with broad support, and against a south that was more than ready for a fight. He did this just to enhance the original intent of the republic? Nuts.

REP. PAUL: Oh, come on, Tim. Slavery was phased out in every other country of the world. And the way I’m advising that it should have been done is do like the British empire did. You, you buy the slaves and release them. How much would that cost compared to killing 600,000 Americans and where it lingered for 100 years? I mean, the hatred and all that existed. So every other major country in the world got rid of slavery without a civil war. I mean, that doesn’t sound too radical to me. That sounds like a pretty reasonable approach.

Not to mention that this clearly was not an option for Lincoln by the time that he got to office, or that it would not have at all likely been accepted by the south for many years to come. Or that it doesn’t really touch on the basic reason why Lincoln went to war. Or that the hatred already was in pretty full swing, and not going anywhere, obviously. Actually what can you really say about this? Nuts.

[quote=“spook”]So why is Ron Paul a nut?[/quote]Spook -
You seem to feel that you’re getting a lot from repeatedly asking this question. How about you direct it to the article author -> Steve Shives via americanchronicle.com/articl … leID=47274
and let us know what he says.
After all, its the title of his article. Maybe he can help you.

Yours in problem solving,
TainanCowboy

p.s. - it is internet forum courtesy to use the exact title of articles being referenced as thread titles to avoid duplicate posting.

He thinks he could do away with the income tax.[/quote]

For most of the history of the United States there was no income tax and it required an amendment to the Constitution to institute one. It should also not be forgotten that the catalyst for the Revolutionary War was onerous taxation so there’s a high likelihood that the founders of the United States deliberately omitted income taxation as part of their vision of government.

He’s not the only nut in the GOP who wants to do away with an income tax, btw:

[quote]Hastert Book Says GOP Plans to Abolish IRS
By Doug Patton
Talon News
August 2, 2004

WASHINGTON (Talon News) – Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL) writes in a new book that Congressional Republicans plan to push for the elimination of the Internal Revenue Service during a Bush second term.

The Drudge Report revealed Sunday that Hastert’s book, “Speaker: Lessons From Forty Years of Coaching and Politics,” discloses a plan by President Bush and the GOP Congress to replace the burdensome federal income tax with a national sales tax.

“People ask me if I’m really calling for the elimination of the IRS,” Hastert writes. “I say I think that’s a great thing to do for future generations of Americans.”

A growing number of Members of Congress have become supporters of the so-called “Fair Tax” (web site), a national sales tax on new consumer items. U.S. Reps. John Linder (R-GA) and Steve King (R-IA) have been vocal supporters of the plan.

“By adopting a sales tax, … we could begin to change productivity,” Hastert writes. “If you can do that, you can change gross national product and start growing the economy. You could double the economy over the next fifteen years.”

“All of a sudden, the problem of what future generations owe in Social Security and Medicare won’t be so daunting anymore,” Hastert continues. “The answer is to grow the economy, and the key to doing that is making sure we have a tax system that attracts capital and builds incentives to keep it here instead of forcing it out to other nations.”

King, who campaigned on the proposal during his first run for Congress in 2002, has said he believes the measure would pass if President Bush were to get behind it during his second term. He also believes that once taxpayers understand the ramifications of the change, they will embrace it.

“We need to stop taxing productivity,” King told Talon News. “As Ronald Reagan said, whatever you tax you get less of. I believe we should give taxpayers a one-year moratorium on withholding tax and let them keep everything they earn while trying the Fair Tax. Do that and they will never go back to the old system.” . . .

[/quote][/quote]
It’s not that he wants to, but that he thinks he can.

Personally, I favor completely disbanding and abolishing the IRS.
In my book it qualifies as a terrorist organization.

GMTA…?

Coo-Coo Coo-Coo Coo-Coo

[quote=“TainanCowboy”][quote=“spook”]So why is Ron Paul a nut?[/quote]Spook -
You seem to feel that you’re getting a lot from repeatedly asking this question. How about you direct it to the article author -> Steve Shives via americanchronicle.com/articl … leID=47274
and let us know what he says.
After all, its the title of his article. Maybe he can help you.

Yours in problem solving,
TainanCowboy

p.s. - it is internet forum courtesy to use the exact title of articles being referenced as thread titles to avoid duplicate posting.[/quote]

Do you agree with Dr. McCoy that wanting to abolish the IRS and the income tax qualifies one as a nutjob – or would you rather not say?

Watch the stock market. The price of tin foil is going to skyrocket.

Sometimes he seems like a nutjob, sometimes he don’t.

I’ve been looking through his pronouncements on his website and I wouldn’t call him a nutjob. He’s nutjob-ish. He attracks nutjobs. Very conspiritorial, which is the nature of the libertarian. I agree with some things and disagree with some. If elected, I think he would be pretty harmless, so if he was the third party candidate, and if he was on the ballot in Oklahoma, I would probably vote for him. As a vote against the two-party system. I know he won’t win.

I’m not sure McCoy. Reading some of your previous posts…

Being Libertarian does NOT mean getting rid of government. It means reducing government, especially its influence over your rights.

For instance, should there be a law preventing you from eating the wrong foods? How about visiting the “wrong” websites? What happens if there’s a law censoring all the things that are unsuitable for you as an adult? How long before the government makes all the important decisions for you?

Libertarians like free market, but no where in this does it say they want the big industrial complexes that we have today, where the majority of recently business related laws support big business and hurts small ones. I mean if Hillary and Obama can both accept half a million from the lobby groups backed by the very companies they’re campaigning against, what does it tell you?

We’ve got Obama whom has been thoroughly proven to be campaigning against a lot of the important things he actually voted for prior, and Hillary Clinton which is generally hated and touts her experience which looking at it seems equally appalling. McCain, I’m not sure if I’ll ever go for his 100 years in Iraq statement.