Russia invades Ukraine: General Discussion 2023

Russia spent a lot of blood trying to take it, didn’t, and are now retreating. Not that hard

Nope, try reading again, maybe quote what i actually assert

Yes an explosion like that will vaporize any human in the area, so not really sure how they would get accurate handle on deaths there. Quite substantial staff in a place like that, heck security guards alone would be a few dozen. Suggestions losses incured in the bunker network. Losses in surrounding inhabited areas will be easier to count, if not admit to.

You’re still losing.

Ahhh the joys of projection :slight_smile:

How would either of us know?

Actually bakmut is a hard one to say. Russia has a vast artillery advantage but is attacking. Ukraine counterattacks as well.

You seriously assert a ammunition depot and bunker of that size is completely unattended? No admin, guards, loaders?

How do you know 700 died? How does anyone know nobody died?

Are the Russians really retreating in Bakhmut? I have just been skiming reports lately but would find that strange given the time and effort they put in there.

Seems so. Not a complete rout, and there is likely some mis-/disinformation at work here. I’ve suggested somewhere that they may be redeploying in anticipation of another feint, especially Crimea holds more value for Ukraine than Bakhmut right now

The war continues to go poorly for Putin

Russia has been slowly, very very slowly, making gains near the Oskil river and the town of Dvorichna, where two bridges used to serve as crossing. The highway bridge I think is gone, but another smaller bridge seems to still be standing. This is the closest crossing near the Russian border.

Then some recent facts and updates for you to drag you out from your confirmation bias for “good and just Russia fighting murican-spported ukronazis” and everything going “according to the plan” of wise Russian command in Bakhmut. They (Russians) are taking Bakhmut from last August, about a year already? Meat grinder for Prigozhin’s convicts for sure, non-stop meat attacks coming to a halt, Prigozhin running out of meat and shells. Can google about all this circus between official Russian ministry of defence and Prigozhin. Can google about the recent panic of z-extremists awaiting Ukrainian offensive. What do you think is the near future prognosis for “noble Russians fighting murican-supported ukronazis” in Bakhmut?

Drag me from my confirmation bias, way to make your post about me rather than engage in a polite exchange.

I don’t know, let’s wait and see, if we read in a few weeks that Bakhmut has fallen and is now in the hands of the Russians can we disregard your updates in the future?

When you ask a simple question and get a silly propaganda diatribe in response, I think you can just disregard it.

This is unnecessary, please don’t

Just blame the Russians. They blew up their own pipeline (again).

He must really like nazis :rofl:

I thought this was an interesting take on the shooting down of Kinzhal missiles

I will note that I’m still waiting to see the evidence of the shotdown missiles, also what damage the patriot system sustained.

It’s a weird (special?) war. Russia can bomb the fuck out of Ukraine with no comeback on its own territory, bar a few ‘terrorist’ attacks. Is this what we’re going to be on the receiving end when the CCP decide to attack us?

The Mayor of Kiev posted photos of the shot down missile. Was in the news a few days back.