Steak in Taiwan. The good, the bad, the ugly.

The only food poisoning I got in Taiwan was at a party put on by a fancyvchef who worked at a hotel. We figured out it was the salmon. People who steered clear of the salmon were okay.

Hehe. I like my food a touch on the crispy side for exact such reasons :slight_smile:

Wayne’s New York. Yes or no? I’m really thinking going more upscale than that would be a waste for well done steaks with ketchup on the side for dipping the meat into (just kidding on the ketchup @Mataiou ).

I’ve been to Wayne’s Seattle, which is basically the same thing as the Boston and New York branches. It’s pretty damn good. The seafood platter is pretty amazing. Lots of different things to try. I’d recommend it.

They opened near my office on Nanjing east rd 5 sec. Will go to check it out

Did you go, if yes what did try?

At the end I went not long ago for lunch. Had their NZ filet, and it was all right. Well cooked. The starters fine, liked the fries. For the price, it’s very decent imho.

Yes we went. But it was two years ago so I can’t remember too much. The ambiance was good. The steaks were decent. Nothing blew us away. For us, we were happy to have tried it.

ok, still thinking if I will go (Just had decent steaks in the States and chains with good prices, so I might think about price)

How much was lunch?

Wanted to try Domo De Sardegna but seems it has shut down. Well seems then have go to Sardegna . The Piadina seems also gone?

Morton’s steakhouse in Xinyi district in Taipei is an expensive chain from the US. It’s the only proper steakhouse I’ve been to here where the steak doesn’t taste like gristle and they actually know what cook levels mean (eg: at Wang’s, if you don’t say anything it comes out grey and if you ask ā€˜medium rare’ ,which is standard at most steakhouses as pink center, they bring it to you literally raw in the middle). Morton’s also has a great view overlooking Taipei 101. Only problem with Morton’s is it’s hugely expensive. With our family it came out to 11,000+ NTD, our meal including 3 mains and some sides. So best for special occasions, anniversary or birthday.

Morton is meh imho, I kept farting like shit for the whole night after eating there. I suspect they use not the best quality of meat (USDA prime means jackshit nowadays). Smith and wollensky better, still think the best quality price ratio is Ruth’s.

With a bottle of Moretti I paid like 1k.

Domo de Sardegna closed down indeed, Pino kinda retired and moved to Tainan. He does sometimes private cooking down south. The piadina place is moving and they are finishing the new place, still dunno where

There is RuthChris here in KHH, nice but have not been there in a bit.

Have see if I can go to meal in Tainan, seems worth the hour drive!

Piadina: says here

ok, not yet open though, that I know.

Medium rare is not standard as pink center - it’s often described as warm red center, occasionally as warm pink center. I’d be more inclined to describe medium as pink center. I would say medium rare is mostly pink, but with red in the center (which the more sensitive would call raw).

(But there is no right answer, and it’s been a moving target, getting more red over the years)

I tend to agree with this:
https://www.omahasteaks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Steak-Doneness-Guide-and-Temperature-Chart-blog.jpg

Eh, I went there a few years ago. It’s certainly better than Wang’s and other trash Taiwanese places, but I did not feel the steaks were as good as the RCs in the USA.

Maybe I should try again?

That sounds like a ā€˜you’ problem. :rofl:

I thought the steaks were decent. Not comparable to the best steakhouses I’ve been to in the USA (still dream about St Elmo’s in Indianapolis and Delmonico’s in New York), but about the best I’ve had here. They did all the staples, like creamed spinach and Caesar salad, how I would expect it in the USA as well. That might not sound too impressive, but getting a decent salad here is an exceptionally rare event in my experience. I remember ordering ā€œCaesar saladā€ at another Taiwanese place once and getting chopped apples and orange slices in it. :face_vomiting:

Anyway, I’ll try S&W I guess. I’ve never been.

Okay, Dr Pedantic. My descriptive flourishes are sometimes lacking, but you and I both know what we expect when we order ā€œmedium rare.ā€

No, I’m not being pedantic (pedantically, somewhat the opposite!) - I think there is no strict definition of medium rare as you seem to think and it varies from person to person - and I agree that we both know what we expect when we order medium rare, but I also think that we likely expect different things (I expect many to think proper medium rare is ā€œliterally rawā€ in the middle. Hell, I expect many Taiwanese to think proper warm, pink medium oozing juices is literally raw.)! Ha.

Nothing beats a good ol’ fashion å¤œåø‚ē‰›ęŽ’!

I disagree with your assertion it varies from person to person. At steakhouses in the USA if you order ā€œmedium rareā€ there is a standard of doneness most customers expect, and if there’s much variation in either direction (too well done or too raw) it’ll be sent back to the kitchen. The only point I’ll concede is I should’ve said there’s red as well as pink in the center of medium rare (just pink would be more of a medium).

Yeah, but the whole point of my complaint is they don’t have any concept of what steak doneness means. You’re proper fucked if you order a ā€˜medium rare’ steak at a Taiwanese steakhouse like Wang’s. It’ll look like a bloody mess. Fair enough. I wouldn’t go to a hotpot place in the states run by some white guys.