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[BiggusDickus]

@Hanna

@BiggusDickus

The only people I’ve met in person who have been opposed to same-sex marriage have been persons of color. Should I draw any conclusions from this?

Relevance…?

“Makes sense.”

[tempogain]

Are they fine with people being gay? That seems to be a necessary precondition of Sui’s statement

[brasd]

@SuiGeneris

@Hanna

Maybe it has something to do with how generally non-religious the people here tend to be.

Recently there have been anti LGBT pamphlets in my mailbox on a weekly basis. I have also been approached and handed anti LGBT pamphlets while walking down the street… especially near schools. The pamphlets talk nonsense about how stopping gay marriage will save the youth of Taiwan from being brainwashed into becoming gay. I usually just tear up the pamphlet on the spot and hand it back to the person who gave it to me. They just stare as I walk off.

Almost all of these people are some sort if Christian denomination.

I never got one. Can you take a pic next time before you RIP it ?

[BiggusDickus]

I’m not talking about facts, just my experience and feelings.

[Hanna]

@BiggusDickus

“Makes sense.”

From what I understand the bible tells Christians that being gay is a sin and that it’s their duty to inform the public about the teachings of their religion/do missionary work/etc. So it makes sense to me that the Christians here are doing that.

[overnightoats666]

And blacks are overwhelmingly Christian and church going folk, so what @BiggusDickus said makes sense.

Glad we solved that.

[BiggusDickus]

@tempogain

Are they fine with people being gay? That seems to be a necessary precondition of Sui’s statement

As a dyed in the wool non-believer I’m fine with being anti-Christian. But in the interest of fair play I feel the rules should be applied evenly.

[Hanna]

@BiggusDickus

I’m fine with being anti-Christian. But in the interest of fair play I feel the rules should be applied evenly.

So…in the interest of fairness we should be anti-black too? still not seeing how this is relevant…

[tempogain]

@Hanna

From what I understand the bible tells Christians that being gay is a sin

Does it? I know Paul says it’s an “abomination”. As far as the OT goes Christians happily disregard most of those laws

[BiggusDickus]

@Hanna

@BiggusDickus

“Makes sense.”

From what I understand the bible tells Christians that being gay is a sin and that it’s their duty to inform the public about the teachings of their religion/do missionary work/etc. So it makes sense to me that the Christians here are doing that.

It’s never happened to me, which, of course, does not in anyway negate Sui’s experience. I once worked with a Muslim who hated gays. I believe the Quran states that homosexuality is a sin. So, presumably I can link the two?

[Hanna]

@tempogain

Does it? I know Paul says it’s an “abomination”.

I’m really not certain. I tried to read the bible but found it too boring to get through. Most religious texts are kind of a slog.

“Abomination” sounds pretty bad though. Could be interpreted as sin. And it’s all about how you interpret it, right?

[tando]

@BiggusDickus

Almost all of these people are some sort if Christian denomination.

I’m not sure what the point of this comment is.

I’m not sure why you don’t see the point.

Some church people are doing a campaign to oppose the same sex marriage.

[overnightoats666]

@BiggusDickus

I once worked with a Muslim who hated gays. I believe the Quran states that homosexuality is a sin. So, presumably I can link the two?

Shhhhh.
We can only poop on Christianity (unless your talking about black Christians). You leave Islam out of this. Don’t be doing any linking of hateful ideas to a peaceful ideology.

[jdsmith]

@overnightoats666

And blacks are overwhelmingly Christian and church going folk

You. Are. Hilarious.

[tempogain]

It does seem pretty bad, definitely frowned upon by Paul anyway. Maybe I’m nitpicking. Not sure what exactly qualifies as a sin for Christians now that I think of it.

[Hanna]

@BiggusDickus

It’s never happened to me, which, of course, does not in anyway negate Sui’s experience. I once worked with a Muslim who hated gays. I believe the Quran states that homosexuality is a sin. So, presumably I can link the two?

But I still don’t see how specifically black religious people are relevant to the discussion.

Christians and Muslims come in many colors. Some are anti-gay and some are not. I think it has to do more with the religiosity of a person rather than the color of their skin.

[tempogain]

I’m pretty sure if you did a statistical analysis in the US you’d find that black people are not the most gay friendly segment of the population. That doesn’t make everyone or anyone a homophobe or anything.

[overnightoats666]

@Hanna

But I still don’t see how specifically black religious people are relevant to the discussion.

Christians and Muslims come in many colors. Some are anti-gay and some are not. I think it has to do more with the religiosity of a person rather than the color of their skin.

More black Christians voted “nuhhh uhhhh” on gay marriage in California when compared to their white counterparts.

[Uncreativeusername]

@tempogain

Does it? I know Paul says it’s an “abomination”. As far as the OT goes Christians happily disregard most of those laws

It’s the act itself that’s the sin (as is lust, fornication etc). Apparently a lot of monks are gay.

@SuiGeneris

If one says they are fine with people being gay, but not ok with said gay people getting married, then one would be a tad bit discriminatory and perhaps indeed a bit anti gay.

Not really. Well for one thing I think it’s more fine with gay people rather than people being gay. I’m friendly with a gay couple and although I wouldn’t say I support their decisions in this regard I hold no animosity towards them.
And the reason for being opposed to it is by no means necessarily “I dislike gays therefore I don’t want them to be able to get married”.

[overnightoats666]

This is basically what I mean, but you worded it better.