Basketball courts everywhere and they stll need to import players?
Well, it seems they finally left behind old decrepit priests
The comments under that story made me laugh.
Comments section always brings out the racists
You can include children in your naturalization application. Others have done this.
I wonder how many people will naturalise under this new policy?
My guess is less than 10 a year.
Does it matter at all? Good for those who can even if its very few. The rest of us mere plebs use the normal route. Such is life for us mere mortals.
Mate, you simply needed to have upped your basketball game!
Guy
Here if you are from a foreign land you need to build a lot of the conveniences you want yourself, especially when it comes to official business ie, opening bank accounts and lines of credit. Taiwanese arenāt going to do it for you just because you think they shouldnāt discriminate against foreigners. Iām not saying that theyāre right in doing so, but discrimination is a fact of life and we need to find effective means of dealing with it. Dealing with it by tearing down walls is a worthy cause that in my opinion should be continued, however we need some more cunning and creative means.
The majority of the plebs just get the APRC and call it a day, not many people want to dispense with their birth passport
Plebs can get what they want sometimes
But also that statement is incorrect. Many more people naturalise than apply for APRC. I think @anon24369109 has the stats somewhere
Since 2000 around 25,000 people got APRCās,
Since 2000 over 150,000 have naturalized
Not sure how you make your āmajorityā figures up? I am not counted in those stats.
tbh in pure economic terms, naturalising is cheaper and easier than getting APRC:
- no income requirement
- no funds requirement
- 1.2k application fee vs 10k for APRC
- no health check (if I remember well)
there is āonlyā the renouncing catch, which is huge (can even be very expensive for some folks, like Americans), but it is what it is.
Would be helpful to see a breakdown of nationalities. I think the majority of foreigners (like 95%) in Taiwan are from SEA countries where thereās little cost to acquiring Taiwan citizenship because they can regain back their previous citizenship easily.
The white collar workers from western countries cannot regain back citizenship easily, so they tend to not hang around for long if thereās no reasonable path to citizenship.
Plus a lot of them donāt care to get back their original nationality. But I canāt say that too loud or someone will hiss that thatās racist
Plus Iām taking about the plebs on the flob but I suspect Mr satellite knew that already
I think someone found stats from the NIA before
https://www.immigration.gov.tw/5385/7344/7350/8883/
https://www.immigration.gov.tw/5475/5478/141478/141380/
not true for most cases, Oz (simple application), Italy (if you go back to Italy and re-register as a resident), France (simple declaration), Spain (similar procedure to Italy), Portugal (simple declaration), Ireland (declaration), Switzerland (declaration), Belgium (similar process to Italy), Luxembourg (declaration), Denmark (declaration), Sweden (can apply for special permanent residency for former citizens and the apply for resumption), Finland (application), NZ (it seems that if your parents are Kiwis, even if you renounced to your NZ citizenship, you can re-apply to citizenship by grant), UK (can re-register as citizen if the renunciation was made to acquire a foreign nationality).
So your statement is incorrect, as it stands, 3 major western countries (as traditionally intended, US, Canada and Germany) do not allow easy resumptions. Most of other western countries do.
I think itās all relative, and I should clarify I donāt mean all white collar workers from western countries
This wikipedia link gives an aggregate of foreigners living in Taiwan: Demographics of Taiwan - Wikipedia
2019:
USA 1.29%
UK 0.27%
CA 0.28%
France 0.20%
Germany 0.12%
etc.
well, I donāt make the rules, best to specify though. I can get my Italian passport back if I so choose, but I will fight so that no one should have to make this choice since TW do not need to make any choice whatsoever, and thatās not equal treatment.
So without reading the law, whatās the deal for āeducators?ā
Who gets in?