Taiwanese passport Bros

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I have found Taiwanese women will get to your bed without much resistance if you lead them.

Idk about dating in terms of building meaningful relationships as I’ve never tried with Taiwanese women. But getting laid was relatively simple if you take the lead.

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There was some report from China where they had a matchmaking day and hundreds of women showed up but very few guys.

It’s sad but many guys worldwide realize they aren’t in the running unless they are up to a very unrealistic standard so they are just opting out. Especially since porn is so easily available now and video games.

Getting laid and to have serious relationship are quite different things.

When you want to get laid, you probably don’t care that much that the conversations do not go much beyond ā€œWhat is your favourite food and what is your favourite cafe or restaurant?ā€

I don’t know about you, but for me to be able to talk all day without the awkward moments of silence, not knowing what to say, is one of the staples of a good relationship.

Even the above average Taiwanese in terms of education and success, they too often talk about food too much.

We eat to live, not live to eat…

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Whats hard about it?

I didnt find this to be the case, only that the really good looking women are really shallow and not that pleasant… easily avoided.

I found most women here quite laid back and easy to get along with compared to back home. Most of them are traditional and after a stable relationship.

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It’s not hard if u r the one they desire. I am talking about how unrealistic the standard is when it comes to dating .

What are their standards?

Taiwan is still pretty traditional. Most women seem fine with a stable and fat guy. A car is an important one too (retarded imo).

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Stable and fat is okay if he is rich.
If he isn’t rich then need to be mascular and tall
If none then needs to be atleast from a western country
But rich is most important.
Ofcourse u might think it’s not unrealistic and that’s fine

Still easier than anywhere in the Western world.

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Dating everywhere is hard. Women would have more options if they lowered their expectations…

But so would men. These are the choices for single men everywhere: be more desirable, lower your expectations, or look for women with lower expectations (e.g. in Vietnam)

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This is surprisingly easy. Liberated and independent women here who won’t settle for a relationship still have needs… I mean, I’ve heard this…

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And here I thought it was just me seeing that. My wife’s family in Taiwan are all highly educated, well travelled, knowledgeable on a vast range of topics, and can still take up two hours of dinner talking about nothing but food! :exploding_head:

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I don’t agree.

Rich? I don’t think so. A normal job is fine, as long as its stable and the guy can buy a car, or get given one by his parents. A lot of men get given houses by their parents too. Stable is the name of the game.

A guy in Taiwan can be a dribbling idiot man child, but if his parents are doing ok then he has plenty of choices dating wise.

Muscular and tall? I don’t see it. Most Taiwanese guys are neither and they do just fine. A beer gut is ā€˜cute’ and a sign of stability.

Height certainly is a thing that Asian people blab on about, girls will say they only date guys above a certain height. But what they say and what they do are two different things.
Their ideals are just that. One of my chinese teachers listed all her ideals once. Teeth alignment, eye shape, face shape, skin colour. She had it all listed, but i’ve seen her bf he was nothing special.

Asian people are foodies. I consider it a good thing.

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I have also heard this, and local guys with 0 international prospects are inherently more stable. Plus they have local support networks and services, which foreigners probably don’t (needing the woman to be the support service).

And also there are a lot of language and cultural problems that couples don’t have if they’re both from the same place. Which is also fair. Most people prefer to stick to their own, us expats who are here by choice are by definition abnormal.

Luckily, we have the option to take our passports and go. I’m thinking of moving to China for a few years…

Is this due to the food?

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You need to have game. That’s true in Taiwan and it’s true everywhere else. Height helps, money helps, skin color helps, passport helps and so do a shit of other things, but in the end it all comes down to whether you have game or not. Nothing can replace personality. You have to project confidence, in your abilities and your future.

Also maybe change your job? You know you are underpaid, you knew that from the beginning. Stop taking the abuse.

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Seen plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Thats a big one.
At the end of the day its still a traditional culture here and marriage is a joining of families and a way for the woman to be taken care of.

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I went on a road trip with some Taiwanese friends (mostly females, I was the designated driver) and they started gossiping. They started talking about how older men have money and they preferred to date them. Dating someone 10 years older is very normal if they are rich (it was their ideal age gap). But if it’s someone 20 years older they have to be rich and also look like Jay Chou. I think if you have a foreign passport it may add in a few tie breaker points but not enough to offset money or looks, it will maybe subtract 1-3 years off your age for most women when they are considering you as an ideal partner.

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I heard after 30 dating is easier in the west. Besides lots of Taiwanese would never date or settle down with foreigners . So I can’t imagine that’s it’s easier here at all .

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I liked this interview, it is from Japan, but I guess it is not hugely different than Taiwan, except maybe Japanese girls are more willing to be stay at home wives if the husband can afford it…

All of the girls froze when they were asked about what do they bring to the table in relationship.

Turn the tables and ask the girl what, which you would want, can SHE provide in this relationship?

If nothing, is it worth the drag just because they are trying to sell themselves as premium, only because they put the shit (themselves) into a golden cellophane package of their high demands? :slight_smile:

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Please don’t. Unless you’re in a Tier 1 city, the dating options are dreadful.