You might need to be more specific in your post
America first isn’t about getting citizenship in a foreign country.
Any pressure is good pressure here
I can see the gratitude all over this notice
https://www.taiwanembassy.org/ussfo_en/post/4764.html
The reciprocal handling fee of visa applications with US Passports will be USD$185.00 starting June 17, 2023.
Taiwan has made it very clear they have no interest in changing the naturalisation laws. While I disagree with this, being an America doesn’t make you special.
Having a whacko president doesn’t make you special.
You aren’t more entitled to Taiwanese, or any other country’s, citizenship just because you’re an American.
America is just 1 of 200 ish countries and none of them get a say about any other’s citizenship laws.
Not just this, the US tightening its visa rules actually helps Taiwan lose fewer people. So the investments actually stay.
Nobody in Taiwan is going to be like, oh no, please take our people to America!
Yes. That thought was running through my mind.
Of course, as I know next to nothing about any of this, there may well be ways in which allowing Taiwanese to be dual nationals is good for Taiwan as a whole.
It is certainly good for those born to mixed parentage. Why should they be forced to choose between one side of themselves and the other? Knowing but a little about this I feel I would be reluctant to wish to take that away from them.
In that light, even if I perceive it unfair that I as a long term resident have to renounce to add when even those Taiwanese with no ties to another nation do not, at the end of the day their rights are not harming me. They are just making me feel more keenly my harder situation.
I think anything that makes me see taking harmless rights away from others as a good thing in any context requires a step back to see what advantages I have compared to them in other areas and how I can make the best of those.
In terms of incentive, again, knowing so little, I could imagine the very priveleged being upset if the priveledge of easy dual nationality was removed or even threatened by the U.S., and wanting to do something about it. But whether fighting for that right would be a vote winner in this country, I have no idea.
And, anyway, as yourself and most others have mentioned, any deal to restore or prevent the loss of that right would be very unlikely to even consider the plight of U.S. citizens having to renounce to attain Taiwanese citizenship. It would have to be shown to be important to the U.S., either in fact, or as a cause celebre, or it would have to be personally important to someone in the U.S. government with the power to make it part of any such deal.
Maybe a better angle all round would be to focus on what Taiwan would have to gain from allowing long term residents to naturalise without having to renounce. With a backup plan of making it appear backward and shameful, or a loss of face to continue not allowing it. But I’m sure such things have already been discussed to death on here or elsewhere by those with more knowledge than myself.
TL;DR: I support your cause, @jidanni, and sincerely thank you for fighting for our rights. But in this case I agree with Marco and others that this seems like it might not be the best strategy to include in your campaign.
Getting citizenship of another country isn’t a right. Also citizenship isn’t part of “deals” with other countries. Loss of face for Taiwan because of a renuncation requirement? lol
Yes, as I suspected, I cslearly lack both the knowledge and the right words to discuss this. Thank you for schooling me on this in such a friendly manner, as is your wont. But then not suffering fools gladly can be seen as an admirable position when one is not on the receiving end of it, and you have at least graced my drivel with a reply. I clearly misunderstood the subject and hit upon an even worse stratagem than the OP. I guess the main point I was attempting to convey was the surprising to myself position I reached of not wanting to remove the benefit (will that word do?) that Taiwanese enjoy of being able to add another citizenship without needing to renounce. And the accompanying reflection that there might be benefits of my own situation that Taiwanese do not have that I might better attempt to take advantage of rather than thinking that things would be fairer if their benefit was either taken away from them or given to me as well as them. But that personal musing would perhaps have been better kept to myself.
Citizenship comes with rights. Your words were fine, he took an ungenerous reading to bang the same boring drum.
Life isn’t fair, agreed. But fairness isn’t the deciding factor here; it’s just reality. Taiwan has its rules, and they’re not changing just because some foreigners feel inconvenienced.
Plenty of people face unfair situations in life… some are born rich, some poor, some with disabilities, some able-bodied. We don’t get to rewrite the rules to suit our personal preferences; we deal with what’s in front of us.
So, if Taiwan requires renunciation for naturalization, those are the cards you’ve been dealt. You can:
A) Keep your APRC and accept it. (Maybe even focus on challenging the annoying restrictions with it.)
B) Renounce and commit fully.
C) Keep your APRC and lobby for change, knowing it might never happen.
D) Keep your APRC and lobby your own government to follow other countries UK, Ireland, Australia, South Africa, Italy etc… to allow resumption
Complaining about fairness won’t change reality. Time to play your hand.
And then we die
Maybe you’ll have better luck getting together a group of Americans who support your case then making an appeal directly to Trump or Musk.
Perhaps they can throw in a special clause just for Americans, in order for some other trade off like getting the tax treaty passed. Just like how Singapore does not tax American foreigners the 60% stamp duty for home purchases due to tax treaty negotiation but other nationalities have to pay.
Who in the administration do you think vaguely cares about this enough that it would be something that’d consider bringing up as an issue?
You want to get another citizenship, get the f’d out of here and renounce seems to go right along with America First.
This is just an issue that nobody, other than a very small group of expats, cares about, either in Taiwan or the US. Taiwan doesn’t even want to grant citizenship to people like me and @tommy525 (relatively well off Americans, born in Taiwan, half Taiwanese).
Well, minus those taxes you still have to pay to Uncle Sam when abroad. But for the average English teacher in TW, the us government would probably make more money off us renouncing. Most of us aren’t making enough to even have to pay.
There should be protests and more awareness for this.
However, recently I helped someone with a Taiwanese mom and a Hong Kong/American dad.
I advised him to switch his ARC over to a TARC for Hong Kong citizens and got his ID card through marriage a few years later.
They make more money by keeping you on an APRC. I note there is also the fact that some feel they can’t leave for fear of losing their APRC status. Those who stay aren’t entitled to many benefits but pay the same taxes lol
The they there was supposed to refer to the US government. My bad, unclear.
It affects a small subset of folks, and only a subset of folks affected care, so not many fucks given overall. You’d get like maybe 3 people for a protest. 
No worries.
The U.S. loves to tax its citizens abroad forever. So there is that you could factor into the argument for the U.S. to push for its citizens to be allowed to retain their nationality. However… the exit tax is juicy I heard.