Taiwan's dual nationality policy vs. America First

Regarding all those visas we Americans have been giving the Taiwanese
all these years without a sliver of gratitude, just the other day I
was reading:

The incoming Trump administration may resort to pressuring regional
partners, including threatening trade restrictions and limiting visa
access to countries that resist these deals. His administration will
likely tighten visa issuance across various categories, such as work
visas, green cards for immediate relatives, and other qualifying
family “preference” programs … the use of “immigration
diplomacy” aimed at pressuring countries that refuse to… or
otherwise are seen as noncooperative by the administration. the
president’s authority over foreign relations gives him authority to
determine how U.S. visas should be issued to foreign nationals.
America First Trade Policy: It directs the US Trade Representative to
review and renegotiate or withdraw from agreements that disadvantage
American workers and businesses.

The fear of even a tiny visa slowdown would be all it takes to send
Taiwan’s legislators scurrying to pass our dual nationality proposal,
and even begging, “Is there anything else I can help you with today?”

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:rofl:

That’s what we’re calling it now? Gratitude? What do you expect people to do? Go to the AIT and get down on their knees and kiss their feet too?

Hardly. If you think that slowing down visa issuance will cause Taiwanese MPs to pass dual nationality for Americans then I have a bridge to sell to you.

For the Americans, there is no perceived benefit, and little practical benefit for them to pressure Taiwanese people to allow Americans to get nationality here. The US even makes giving up US nationality difficult and expensive. American exceptionalism wouldn’t even entertain the thought of Americans leaving.

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I can already close the internet for the week.

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Taiwanese can add American citizenship, but Americans cannot add
Taiwanese citizenship. That makes a mockery of America First. All it
would take is one raised eyebrow in Washington to get it fixed.

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Americans can also add Taiwan citizenship.

Once renounced, you can be just like any other Taiwanese and get American citizenship too.

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Add, not swap.

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Why not send a message to Trump asking why Taiwan discriminates against Americans yet Americans support Taiwan a lot.

Give an entire list of things. I’m sure one day he could see it as useful ammo when building a case to throw Taiwan under the bus

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“We Americans”

Oh my good God. :wall:

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No it wouldn’t. You’d be laughed out of the office for suggesting the US government to prioritise this.

The US doesn’t care if you can’t get dual citizenship by naturalising in another country. They have no incentive to care.

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Excellent idea. Indeed, not only immigration items, but also

America First Trade Policy: It directs the US Trade Representative to
review and renegotiate or withdraw from agreements that disadvantage
American workers and businesses.

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I think you are perceiving the intention and meaning of this statement incorrectly.

In Taiwan, you are a Taiwanese worker for all intents and purposes. If you live in Taiwan and participate in the Taiwanese economy, you are a Taiwanese worker for all intents and purposes. You are no longer an American worker.

In fact, leaving the US as an individual in the productive years of your life means the US lost money on their investment in you. Promoting your ability to stay overseas is against US interests. There is no incentive to further push you away with the idea of making it easier for you to stay here.

True. But US tax code buffers that a bit as US still get to tax their income without having to provide any services.
In that regard, Taiwan, by forcing Americans to renounce, is taking away direct income from the U.S. That would be a better argument for Trump administration. But this is minuscule to care about.

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I don’t see how having more Americans with Taiwanese citizenship solves any problems the US has. Tech people and researchers they would theoretically want to keep, children’s teachers they probably don’t worry about losing

The biggest loser in the current arrangement is the Taiwanese government, though APRC goes a ways to alleviating it. It’s funny that most of the new citizens they accept are from countried that would be considered less derisreable by Taiwanese than, for example, the US. But if it matters at all we won’t know for 20 years, at which point it’ll be too late to do anything about it…

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How about Taiwan’s legislators wake up one morning to see

Immigration policy changes being considered by Trump administration may hit Taiwanese on green card queues hard

Not unlike

That will teach them to play fair.

Yes. But in practise, Americans need to file, but don’t need to pay taxes outside of being a high earner.

But the point stands, there is no incentive for the US to care.

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And?

Did India give dual nationality to Americans?

Ah, no wonder Taiwan changed the law to allow high income earners to keep their US citizenship,
https://nspp.mofa.gov.tw/nsppe/content_tt.php?unit=2&post=113162
else the loss to the U.S. Treasury would start raising eyebrows in Washington.

And,

does India allow its citizens to go hog wild munching out, having a double dip of other countries’ citizenship. But when those other people come around, tell them the golf course is closed?

Nobody is doing this socalled hog munching thing. Attaining citizenship in another country by naturalising is a rather difficult process. Being a dual citizen is rather rare to begin with.

And India allows former Indians a semi-citizenship for former citizens and people of Indian origin that contains 90% of the rights and privileges. It allows Indians to recover their citizenship too.

Your country closes the door on you if you leave.

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