The invasion of Ukraine has amplified the risk of a Chinese invasion

[Poundsand]

@OysterOmelet

Which parts? I’m curious.

Some reservations and Appalachian towns are seriously sad.

[ChewDawg]

I’ve been to the Ukraine in the 90s–Uzhhorod…remember smoking shitloads of Cossack ciggies, drinking gallons of cheap wine from the local market and enjoying the Slavic beauties.

[LondonSpice]

Every country has shit parts,
I agree pro-Ukraine as it can fuck up lots of shit worldwide being taken over easily.

China - Taiwan 2 days max and they know it. Xi maybe not as mental as Putin? does he want to fight his own Nationality, money and pressure will buy Taiwan.

Together they could develop a better car than the Germans where all domestic Asian money goes.

[OysterOmelet]

@LondonSpice

Every country has shit parts,
I agree pro-Ukraine as it can fuck up lots of shit worldwide being taken over easily.

China - Taiwan 2 days max and they know it. Xi maybe not as mental as Putin? does he want to fight his own Nationality, money and pressure will buy Taiwan.

Together they could develop a better car than the Germans where all domestic Asian money goes.

I didn’t understand a single thing you said. If you can reword for me, that’d be great. I’m interested as I can get a gist of the general direction you’re going.

[OysterOmelet]

If we can make an ignominious ending for Putin, Xi will think twice.

K2SMOOVE ✨

[Baxter]

@Trillium

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[Trillium]

I’m pro Ukraine but that doesn’t mean I expect everyone to be because I understand that people are individuals capable of thoughts and opinions.

Ever been to Joplin, Missouri? Flint, MI? Detroit? East St Louis, IL? I have.

I’m from the US but have lived abroad for the last ten years in various countries, some more developed than others. I can tell you there are plenty of places in the US that look just as bad if not worse than a village in Ukraine.

Feel free to keep arguing though. Have you ever lived in the US and seen the homeless camps there? Have you ever worked with a non profit that directly supports those communities and sees how they have been abandoned by their local and federal governments?

[LondonSpice]

Fair enough, yeah talking shite.

What isn’t:
Russia has warned of “serious consequences” if Finland or Sweden were to join the Nato alliance

I’m sure Putin is getting apoplectic about this tho:
Russia is stripped of Champions League final, kicked out of 2022 Eurovision Song Contest, and stopped from hosting F1 Grand Prix

[OysterOmelet]

@Trillium

Ever been to Joplin, Missouri? Flint, MI? Detroit? East St Louis, IL? I have.

People in those cities make more money than they do in Ukraine, much more. They live longer too.

[Taiwan_Luthiers]

If they can afford medical treatment that is… which is expensive as hell in the US.

[Trillium]

clearly you haven’t been there. Access to care, inequality of wealth, addiction, etc. This isn’t about who makes more money it’s about the fact that there are plenty of people in the US living in conditions that are not dissimilar to people in developing nations. Just stop. Please… It’s embarrassing.

[Andrew0409]

In a way, it might not because of a few reasons.

1. This will for sure revitalize NATO members to fully commit. They got caught with their pants down.

2. The world understands Taiwan is also at risk. International awareness is always positive to Taiwan.

3. People once again see the uglinesses of war and a threat of another World war. There will be more pressure to stop anything like it.

4. Taiwan is going to ramp up defense seeing all of this.

[OysterOmelet]

@Taiwan_Luthiers

If they can afford medical treatment that is… which is expensive as hell in the US.

Poor people are covered by Medicaid.

[Daveorsomething]

@Andrew0409

In a way, it might not because of a few reasons.

1. This will for sure revitalize NATO members to fully commit. They got caught with their pants down.
2. The world understands Taiwan is also at risk. International awareness is always positive to Taiwan.
3. People once again see the uglinesses of war and a threat of another World war. There will be more pressure to stop anything like it.
4. Taiwan is going to ramp up defense seeing all of this.

I’ll add one more:
5. If Putin kind of takes an L on this one, I mean suffers serious consequences, such as greater military losses than expected (it’s not a cakewalk or turns into a prolonged mess), lots of protests and then backlash from clamping down on protests, and most importantly makes his country / people poorer (especially his fellow oligarchs), it will serve to remind Xi and co. of the costs / downside risks to making any serious move on Taiwan. I think the Chinese are aware of these risks and it’s perhaps the main reason they haven’t invaded and aren’t likely to try any time soon, but if this turns into a debacle for Putin it could really drive it home.

[MikeN1]

Ukraine GDP/capita (pre-invasion): US$3,728
Taiwan GDP/capita: US$33,780

[OysterOmelet]

@MikeN1

Ukraine GDP/capita (pre-invasion): US$3,728
Taiwan GDP/capita: US$33,780

+Joplin, MO GDP/Capita: US$36,000

[OysterOmelet]

@Daveorsomething

@Andrew0409

In a way, it might not because of a few reasons.

1. This will for sure revitalize NATO members to fully commit. They got caught with their pants down.
2. The world understands Taiwan is also at risk. International awareness is always positive to Taiwan.
3. People once again see the uglinesses of war and a threat of another World war. There will be more pressure to stop anything like it.
4. Taiwan is going to ramp up defense seeing all of this.

I’ll add one more:
5. If Putin kind of takes an L on this one, I mean suffers serious consequences, such as greater military losses than expected (it’s not a cakewalk or turns into a prolonged mess), lots of protests and then backlash from clamping down on protests, and most importantly makes his country / people poorer (especially his fellow oligarchs), it will serve to remind Xi and co. of the costs / downside risks to making any serious move on Taiwan. I think the Chinese are aware of these risks and it’s perhaps the main reason they haven’t invaded and aren’t likely to try any time soon, but if this turns into a debacle for Putin it could really drive it home.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

We should make it as bad for Putin as possible.

[DrewC]

@Daveorsomething

I’ll add one more:
5. If Putin kind of takes an L on this one, I mean suffers serious consequences, such as greater military losses than expected (it’s not a cakewalk or turns into a prolonged mess), lots of protests and then backlash from clamping down on protests, and most importantly makes his country / people poorer (especially his fellow oligarchs), it will serve to remind Xi and co. of the costs / downside risks to making any serious move on Taiwan. I think the Chinese are aware of these risks and it’s perhaps the main reason they haven’t invaded and aren’t likely to try any time soon, but if this turns into a debacle for Putin it could really drive it home.

I think it will turn into an Iraq-style quagmire for them. I was seeing that even female members of Parliament are arming themselves with AK-47s to join the resistance. Russia may temporarily overrun some cities, but I can see this becoming a bloody insurgency. Plus no one is going to accept whatever puppet ruler they try to install.

[mad_masala]

@OysterOmelet

People in those cities make more money than they do in Ukraine, much more. They live longer too.

I’m having serious doubts about that, TBH. But I don’t know.

[Poundsand]

Purchasing power parity would explain a lot of it.