The Overdue Critical Race Theory Thread

[Liam_Og]

@tempogain

My understanding in short is that there can be different prevailing ranges of characteristics among different local groups of people, but that grouping them together arbitrarily according to skin color is meaningless, biologically speaking.

I remember seeing an exhibition in London made of close up face photos of people. Each had super distinctive faces, but each face had dopplegangers that were white black indian etc.

[TT]

@eCanada

@jdsmith

Did you or did you not just start a thread on how trolling people is badz?

I did. I don’t see the connection.

understatement of the century

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On another note
As an alternative to the received wisdom (i.e. dogma) of CRT what about the idea that we should focus on identifying false assumptions? Anyways, at least she had the dignity to apologize, but personally I think it is a shame these charges were dropped…

Amy Cooper, white woman charged in racist Central Park run-in, has criminal...

[eCanada]

The victim thought it was a waste of time to charge her

[QuaSaShao]

Hopefully now she’s learned her lesson. Only play the victim card against white males in the future.

[jdsmith]

@QuaSaShao

Only play the victim card against white males in the future.

We are the best targets. Stand right out from the crowd.

[tando]

@tando

interested in how the theory is applied on a global scale.

@eCanada

The theory is based on the US. So, no. You could develop a similar theory.

learned it cannot be applied on a global scale.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0011392120969764

Or can.

Critical Race Theory beyond North America: toward a trans-atlantic dialogue...

[jdsmith]

@tando

Other oppressed oppressive languages such as Spanish, Russian, Mandarin, Arabian, etc. should be used more.

Odd thing to say. Why not less and less? Would that indicate less oppression?

[QuaSaShao]

It does feel odd when I’m in a meeting with Thais, Chinese and Japanese and we’re all speaking English and there’s not an Englishman anywhere in the building.

[TT]

@QuaSaShao

It does feel odd

Truly English has become the global ‘lingua franca’, which is hilarious because that expression is Latin but used to describe the language of the Franks. Languages are funny, they live and grow and sadly die. It’s a shame that it is so dominant, though, because in a lot of ways English is an awful language.

[tando]

@QuaSaShao

It does feel odd

yes, people should question the situation accepted as a norm so widely and the white supremacy which has caused the English supremacy. It should be undone.

[tando]

@jdsmith

Would that indicate less oppression?

diversity of oppression.

[McNulty]

Some deep thoughts from the day from M.C. Arty Schopenhauer.

This belongs in the Peak Woke thread as well.

[TT]

@McNulty

This belongs in the Peak Woke thread as well.

lol you are a comedy gem that just doesn’t quit. you said you are a teacher of some sort?

Arthur Schopenhauer | Races and religions

#doyourhomework

[McNulty]

Its almost as if Schopenhauer was writing from another Century about any number of topics! Ever read Aristotle’s Politics? If you want some un-PC stuff, Check out how that starts. It’s a I’m pretty sure they sell it in Canad…er, wherever you are lol.

Aristotle’s Views on Slavery: Nature, Necessary and Criticism (yourarticlelibrary.com)

The whole thing about an open mind is you consider all of it first, and in its proper context. So have you read the links I sent yet? This is already one reply to you too many otherwise.

[OysterOmelet]

@tando

@tando

interested in how the theory is applied on a global scale.

@eCanada

The theory is based on the US. So, no. You could develop a similar theory.

learned it cannot be applied on a global scale.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0011392120969764

Or can.

Critical Race Theory beyond North America: toward a trans-atlantic dialogue on racism and antiracism in educational theory and praxis - UCL Discovery

That’s rather new. You’d have to completely revamp the paradigm.

The reason CRT arose is because whites passed laws prohibiting blacks, Latinos, and Asians from testifying in court, i.e., their words don’t matter. Hence today, they hold less credibility.

[TT]

@McNulty

Its almost as if Schopenhauer was writing from another Century about any number of topics!

Some more quotes from the wikipedia article i shared:

Schopenhauer wrote “Women are directly fitted for acting as the nurses and teachers of our early childhood by the fact that they are themselves childish, frivolous and short-sighted.”

He wrote that pederasty has the benefit of preventing ill-begotten children.

Maybe these are timeless pearls of wisdom for you, not for me

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@McNulty

The whole thing about an open mind is you consider all of it first, and in its proper context.

So you’re saying that for example antebellum slavery was fine, you know in the time and context?

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@McNulty

So have you read the links I sent yet?

I told you I did, and even shared that post with you 3 times asking for you to respond but all you could manage was . Would you like me to share it again here?

[McNulty]

@TT

So you’re saying that for example antebellum slavery was fine, you know in the time and context?

Uh, no that’s not at all what I’m saying, even remotely, and a good example of why I haven’t been paying close attention to your posts of late.

@TT

Would you like me to share it again here?

If it’s on topic and directly related to CRT sure. Otherwise, in a proper place.

[TT]

@McNulty

in a proper place

in that case, i’ll PM you. looking forward to a response this time!

[bluejasn]

@QuaSaShao

Is it really that hard to understand the distinction?

It is for some when the media keeps insisting and labelling them the same and people outside the US confuse them as the same when they aren’t. Many of whom fail to realize their own country’s laws on illegal immigration are far harsher than the US because the media has confused them to believe the issue is not Legal immigration but ILLEGAL immigration by lumping them together and calling them all Legal immigrants.

Thats like saying factory workers in Taiwan who run away are legal immigrants and deserve drivers licenses and their children free education…which is what is being done in the US for Illegals. And anyone who disagrees is labelled anti Immigrant by media outlets like CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post etc

[tando]

@OysterOmelet

That’s rather new. You’d have to completely revamp the paradigm.

The reason CRT arose is because whites passed laws prohibiting blacks, Latinos, and Asians from testifying in court, i.e., their words don’t matter. Hence today, they hold less credibility.

I don’t think any attempts to apply CRT to other places or expand it to larger scales just use the theory as of or replace some terms.

I understand the basic idea is that the society is built up in favor of oppressors and institutionally unequal to oppressed people, so they should reforme an equal society, which may be universal in any places.

It is interesting that people in the same class are separated to oppressing and oppressed groups in CRT in US, since the biggest factor for the inequality is race.