Trump “knows he’s an illegitimate president,” Clinton said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level.”
In an October 2020 interview with The Atlantic, Clinton said, “There was a widespread understanding that [the 2016] election was not on the level. We still don’t know what happened … but you don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’”
Horseshit. Most countries in the West don’t constitutionally protect abortion. That’s for legislators, whether federal or subnational.
The legal precedents of Griswold vs. Connecticut cited in R vs. W are weak (the right to privacy protected in the constitution being extended to abortion is a stretch).
Even leftists like McGovern preferred a legislative solution in the 70s. Many Repubs are Libertarian on abortion but against judicial activism or really dumbfuck libtards that don’t get it. Hell, Casey vs Planned Parenthood was brought up by a Democrat
What’s equally interesting is Republicans tend to generalize and stereotype groups of millions of people as evidenced by the two above statements.
Republicans will always be in the minority because they appeal to the group that is incapable of succeeding and must rely on xenophobia and jingoism to explain away their failures.
Yes, including the woke bigots. The kind of bigots who believe white people are fundamentally worse people, for example
Some people do it for religious reasons. It might be difficult to conceive how other people think differently than we think, because most people can barely think like themselves, but that doesnt make them fundamentally worse people
Except sometimes for religious or medical purposes. The world does not consist of simple absolutes that conveniently align with our firmly held beliefs. This is a problem many zealots have, though. Much like the solution to racism cannot by definition be more racism, the solution to irrational zealotry cannot be more of the same.
Yes, this idea is ridiculous. Actually, the reasons are many and complex. Reading the wrong books, believing too firmly in the righteous truth of their position, and a horrible field of deplorable candidates, are other reasons in addition to the abortion ban
But, has anyone here said the election was rigged? Why are you bringing this up?
Both your comment and the one you were replying to fall under
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This is happening with increasing frequency in this thread so would ask both sides not to resort to this sort of ad hominem attack and discuss the midterms instead. If you see something you think goes against the rules flag it rather than replying in kind.
I don’t think @Malasang88 didn’t realize the irony, more like he saw it as an opportunity to respond in kind, hence my post asking for both sides to knock it off and return to civil discourse.
Nor is your drive by casting of aspersions. Any content to add? Thought not.
Here’s a bit more:
Content that is.
While an alarming 61 per cent of Republican voters believe that Biden didn’t win the 2020 election legitimately, a whopping 72 per cent of Democratic voters believe that Trump didn’t win the 2016 election legitimately, because of those dastardly Russians.
Maybe this news, these polls, didn’t get to some people’s ears, being pinched in by their colons.
Abortion, for evangelicals, is a manufactured issue for political expediency (read up on Weyrich if you haven’t) that they’ve bought into hook, line, and sinker. The Catholics at least sort of fundamentally believe (those that vaguely follow the teachings of the church anyway).
They don’t source this number, but:
The survey question they’re interpreting that from is ‘Hillary Clinton has said that “Russia succeeded” in influencing the 2016 presidential election. How likely is it that Russian interference changed the outcome of the 2016 election?’ I don’t think that’s the same as it wasn’t a legit election.
There are lots of evangelicals, Weyrich can’t speak for all if them. And yes, there are catholics as well. The point is that there are lots of people and the gross generalizations being thrown around are at best not very useful.
So what you’re saying is, not only could he not speak for them all before, now his writings are out of date. Well, I’m glad I didn’t bother to look up your recommendation
Anyways, I’m not going to argue the argument with you. My point stands.
The simple questions about election denial are these:
Did Hillary concede and congratulate Trump?
Did an overwhelming majority of the Dem leadership and rank and file accept the results of the 2016 election and congratulate the new president?
Did the GSA withhold funds or refuse to begin the transition of the Trump administration?
And on a more petty note, did Obama refuse to welcome the Trump’s to the White House according to tradition? Did any of the Democrat leadership refuse to attend Trump’s inauguration?
And the whole “encourage supporters to attack the Capitol to prevent the VP from confirming the election results” scene - didn’t happen before Trump became president.
The issue was manufactured decades ago, and he was in the midst of it, so I don’t think out of date applies.
You seem to be conflating a couple things. What she ran with is pretty irrelevant to the point you pulled out and the poll question it’s (loosely) based on.
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