The US needs Medicaid for all

[anon58655674]

What would Jesus Do?

[Mithrandir]

@anon58655674

WWJD?

I think he would render unto Caesar which is Caesar’s and ask everyone else to help out their communities.

[Andrew0409]

@anon58655674

Rich, entitled people are the only people that ever make this argument.

Cute calling me entitled. You don’t know anything about me like your stupid rants of how I’m xenophobic.

Human rights can’t be given.

[MalcolmReynolds]

@anon58655674

What would Jesus Do?

I don’t know. Built some cabinets? Do some framing? He’s that Jewish carpenter guy who some believe was the son of god, right?

[Mithrandir]

@anon58655674

Rich, entitled people are the only people that ever make this argument.

No, many who understand logic and language makes it as well. Including my parents who grew up poor. And me, who grew up lower middle class when I was young and middle class when I was older.

[rantanplan]

@MalcolmReynolds

Then who pays? The rich have to carry the poor?

so by your logic, big companies should be left alone by the government.
funny how they are the first to demand governmental help in a crisis like this and how they are the first to receive it.

@MalcolmReynolds

No thanks. I’ll take care of me and my family and others should do the same.

see above

[anon58655674]

I just don’t understand how Americans keep arguing for a failed health care system when it’s demonstrably failing the people it’s supposed to protect in front of their very eyes. Every other country uses NHI besides America, and America’s system fails it people more frequently more often than any rich country. What else needs to be said?

[Andrew0409]

@anon58655674

WWJD?

Help people himself. Jesus did not govern or call for governmental changes. Lots of free clinics for you to donate to. Have you done so? I have been doing it since HS.

[Andrew0409]

@anon58655674

I just don’t understand how Americans keep arguing for a failed health care system when it’s demonstrably failing the people it’s supposed to protect in front of their very eyes. Every other country uses NHI besides America, and America’s system fails it people more frequently more often than any rich country. What else needs to be said?

So countries with NHI aren’t failing? Have you checked Europe?

[MalcolmReynolds]

@rantanplan

so by your logic, big companies should be left alone by the government.

Oh no. They should pay an equal percentage of taxes as any other citizen. No less, but certainly no more just because they have money due to their hard work.

Why should I have to pay more taxes than anyone else just simply because I worked my ass off, saved money, invested wisely and didn’t blow my money on drugs, alcohol and fags?

[anon58655674]

It is interesting you can be compassionate in your personal life yet embrace systems of economic thought that are disproportionately cruel in your political beliefs. I’m sorry, Andrew, but I dont think Jesus would embrace ‘fuck you go die if you’re poor’ as an ethos in a situation like this. Nor would you.

This tells me you are good person that has bought into an ideology. Isn’t it a lot of work keeping that going?

[Ducked]

I think you might be selling yourselves a bit short here.

@Mithrandir

But who knows, Americans can be stupid just like everyone else.

Oh wait…Brexit. OK, we got you beat.

[MalcolmReynolds]

@anon58655674

I just don’t understand how Americans keep arguing for a failed health care system when it’s demonstrably failing the people it’s supposed to protect in front of their very eyes. Every other country uses NHI besides America, and America’s system fails it people more frequently more often than any rich country. What else needs to be said?

I have absolutely no problem with the US health care system. No one in my family does either. Oh wait, I forgot about my mother’s younger sister and her extended family of drug addicts, cigarette smokers, alcoholics and welfare fiends. Yes, I’m guessing that they aren’t too happy with the US health care system.

[rantanplan]

@Mithrandir

No, anyone who understands logic and language makes it as well.

@Mithrandir

First they came for the capital letters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a letterist.

@Mithrandir

Then they came for the grammar, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a grammaticist.

@Mithrandir

Then they came for logic—and there was no one left to speak for me.

a forum is not a grammar contest. and if you blame others of illogical thinking then please elaborate on your own logic to proof others wrong.

[anon58655674]

Anyone living in TW enjoying NHI watching it work far better than the US far far better kind of needs to step aside in this debate, sorry.

[anon58655674]

@MalcolmReynolds

I have absolutely no problem with the US health care system.

Because you don’t have to use it and you have a better one you can entrust your safety and health to.

[Ducked]

@MalcolmReynolds

@rantanplan

so by your logic, big companies should be left alone by the government.

Oh no. They should pay an equal percentage of taxes as any other citizen. No less, but certainly no more just because they have money due to their hard work.

Why should I have to pay more taxes than anyone else just simply because I worked my ass off, saved money, invested wisely and didn’t blow my money on drugs, alcohol and fags?

Dunno. Smugness Tax, maybe?

[Andrew0409]

@anon58655674

It is interesting you can be compassionate in your personal life yet embrace systems of ecnomoic thought that are disproportionately cruel in your political beliefs. This tells me you are good person that has bought into an ideology. Isn’t it a lot of work keeping that going?

Forcing others to comply with your moralistic standards by taking away their choice and property to fund it is not compassion.

[anon58655674]

Youre telling people they can go die on the street if they’re broke too bad, enjoying NHI yourself somewhere, and then telling others about their ‘moralistic standards’?

[Andrew0409]

@anon58655674

I’m sorry, Andrew, but I dont think Jesus would embrace ‘fuck you go die if you’re poor’ as an ethos in a situation like this. Nor would you.

That’s the thing I get most frustrated with you. You only see it as black or white if Someone is a compassionate person if they agree with you. They’re horrible people that hate the poor, are xenophobic, saying fuck you and die, etc.

It’s not true. And I hope you open your mind to other ideas and listen instead of attributing everyone is evil for not wanting this logic.

No one has said “fuck you and die”. That’s a ridiculous straw man and offensive as fuck.