That actually describes most of them. 
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I wasnât claiming heâs an intellectual. And I donât think heâs pretending to be dumb, either - itâs quite obvious that what you see is what you get. I was just pointing out that the US has seen plenty of presidents of equivalent intellectual capacity, and it turns out that being smart or intellectual isnât necessarily what makes a great President, or indeed a bad one.
Personally, Iâd rather have a guy who runs a successful plumbing and electrical business elected as POTUS than an âintellectualâ. The latter is unlikely to have even the faintest clue how the world works.
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As Ryan Grim put it, they wonât ask too many questions about what Trump did to get $2B of Saudi money for Jared, because if you start pulling at that thread, everyone is going to jail. Pornstar payments are rare enough to be safe.
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No sitting or former president of the US has ever been charged with a crime because the legal system set the bar for presidential prosecutions high in order to avoid the appearance of politicizing the legal system. Even George W. Bush, who illegally invaded another country and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians while overseeing a torture program, remains untouched.
Now that the bar has been lowered for Trump though over a campaign financing violation either all powerful politicians will now be held to this new, lower legal standard or Americaâs democratic institutions will suffer a permanent loss of credibility as being nothing more than partisan tools.
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iâm paid by soros to post here.
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I was a Trump supporter, but the Ukraine war has revealed his and Trump Jrs true colours as a Pro-Russian shill who is in Putinâs pocket.
Hope this sticks more than the flimsy, impeachmentâwhich, letâs be honest, was an absolute joke.
Play hangman with trump while a bunch of soldiers play trumpets at trump.
Interesting point. They canât have their cake and eat it. It will either set a legal precedent, or it will be revealed for what it is.
With my tinfoil hat on, though, I have a feeling theyâre doing this to sow more social discord and division. People who supported Trump as the bestest president ever are going to feel even more aggrieved (with some justification), and Democrats are going to become even more unbearably smug. Theyâll be at each otherâs throats even more aggressively than before. And that works out just fine for people who are quietly getting stuff done.
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Justice system has always been a political weapon in America and other less free countries. Like I was jailed for political opinions and such.
Rule of law is an illusion, a propaganda. Now thought crimes is a thing in America.
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Iâm sure he gets your services for freeâŚ
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I for one would be pretty okay with that.
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My tinfoil hat says itâs all choregraphed at this point, Mike Pence was on CNN talking to Wolf Blitzer and being âoutragedâ, itâs all part of the show IMO.
I get the sense Trump is meant to win the first round, establishment Republicans get to stick up for Trump showing they are not in fact establishment Republicans and the court system will be touted as working and fair.
Then they chuck him under the bus on the next case or the one after that and itâs harder to point out the court system is rigged or the Republicans that are sticking up for him now, donât give a stuff about him and want him buried as much as anyone else.
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I hear this tactic used a lot in federal criminal trials. You might win the first trial but they will keep indicting you for the next most plausible law they can indict you on. This is why forbearance is such a big deal in plea agreements, it ends this tactic. You will be convicted no matter what, even if itâs felony jaywalking.
Yeah yeah. I read the CIA lawyerâs book. It wasnât that much torture. They all caved like really fast. Get off Bush will ya! lol
This is new. But you should focus on losing weight and doing cartwheels and jerking off. 
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I disagree. well, I agree about the banana part. but i disagree about former leaders shouldnt be held responsible. i hate immunity, with a passion. Example in Taiwan with the chinese KMT being so god damned horrible, i still agree with Chen going.to jail. if anything, i feel public servants should automatically serve double time as their crimes are against the country being they serve us. fuck them.
but it should be valid and fair, not China style. that is a no brainers.
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I wonder how many ex-politicians would avoid jail time if the law were actually applied fairly? Itâd be a pretty sparse hall of fame, I reckon.
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yup. nothing is more embarrassing than a country acting as a hypocritical double standard. as the west looks at china, as does everyone look at basically everyone.
Dont be that hypocrite! I was applauding Chen going to jail. but saddened at the witch hunt by the chinese run government.
If there were serious crimes, sure, hold him responsible. There werenât, and his ongoing persecution is 100% political. The timing of his current indictment removes all doubt.
Chen, much like Trump, is an asshole, but his imprisonment was also 100% political. No previous president wouldâve been prosecuted for the things Chen did.
There needs to be a very high bar for the prosecution of former leaders by the party currently in power, because the risk of creating the appearance of a banana republic and causing citizens to lose faith in the system is so high. That bar wasnât met in Trump or Chenâs cases.
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