Is France a socialist country with socialist policies?
The definition of socialism is the state owning the means to production. That means all factories, farms, workplace, etc. are all owned by the government and everyone works for the government.
France is not one of them.
There has to be a balance between minimum wage and free enterprise however. Without market forces or government regulations everyone will earn peanuts for even the most demanding or skilled work. Perhaps in some European countries they donāt have a government set minimum wage but have other mechanism to set minimum wage. I donāt think fast food workers should be high earners but if they worked the job for a long time, and so they know what they are doing and can train others, they should make more. But you canāt have cost of living going up without wages going up. Otherwise youāll have a situation where there are small number of extremely rich people with the rest in abject poverty.
Its pretty obvious what it means. By having no minimum wage you can pay people 0. You can pay them less than zero and have them pay you. And itās all above board. Iām sure the mafia have something to do with this rule existing in italy in the first place.
Alright smart arse, i guess italyās economy is doing just fine and its not corrupt nor completely entrenched with organised crime. This no minimum wage rule is surely benefitting the country!! bravo!
You tried to say there was no connection to corruption in italy and the country not having a minimum wage, when there clearly is. Then you started making not very funny jokes about the mafia (society crippling organised crime is so funny right). You said a stupid thing, just own up to it mate.
I suspect his thinking goes something like if there is no minimum wage itās not illegal to have to give % of your wage to the mafia even if your own take home wage goes to 0.
If there was a minimum wage, that would put a floor on how much the mafia can charge you for the privilege of having a job.
He fails to understand though that a) the mafia doesnāt care about it being illegal or not b) there are already laws in place to prevent the above(they just need to be enforced)
I was trying to imagine how what you were talking about would actually work, since you havenāt explained it.
Read my posts in other threads, mate. I am pro-MW and pro-rule of law. I just donāt see a coherent argument from you in this thread. (As one might say, we are talking past each other.)
Btw I confess I was wrong about California. In the last three years, a few people have been prosecuted and at least one convicted for those scam workshops ā not that thatās a (general public) minimum wage issue, though, and it may not even be related to the union MW, depending on what sort of work people expect to get.
