US to decouple from China, switch recognition back to Taiwan?

[RedHorse]

@Swillbury

Would a recognition by the Trump administration cause an immediate invasion from the CCP? They would lose all the face they had left if they sat idly by and watched Taiwan get legitimized by the West. No amount of sanctions or money would be worth that amount of face loss.

Having said that, it would more than likely cause WW3. I do think the US has a defense pact with Taiwan therefore an invasion would cause a counterattack which would cause other Asian countries to get involved, mainly India and Japan and then boom, NK launches a nuke and we all die.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/tech/tsmc-arizona-chip-factory-intl-hnk/index.html

[hansioux]

It’s a tiny plant (20,000 wafers per month) and by the time it is operational in 2024, the technology node would be outdated. I think it is planned to manufacture ICs for the US military or the US government specifically.

[MikeN1]

Yep. the dollar is quite sound- one-year interest rates are 1.3%. Which will not stop the usual suspects from shrieking about hyperinflation will eat us all if we don’t stop giving money to the poor and middle-classes instead of using it for tax breaks for the wealthy.
And speaking of China

Electric car maker Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) plans to introduce a new low-cost, long-life battery in its Model 3 sedan in China later this year or early next that it expects will bring the cost of electric vehicles in line with gasoline models, and allow EV batteries to have second and third lives in the electric power grid.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exclusive/exclusive-teslas-secret-batteries-aim-to-rework-the-math-for-electric-cars-and-the-grid-idUSKBN22Q1WC

[RedHorse]

All true, but I was pointing at the symbolic importance. TSMC has been trying very, very hard to stay neutral. This is a sign that it won’t be able to do so forever.

[the_bear]

I’m at a Wistron subsidiary. OOC is an official policy.

[Dr_Milker]

@hansioux

Global sentiment about the US isn’t much better to be honest.

It’s significantly better in Asia at least.

[Dr_Milker]

@the_bear

China defines it that way. If you’re friends with Taiwan you can’t be friends with China.

Fuck China’s definition.

[the_bear]

Ooh the on you

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We already send 100 thousand masks every week to US government and then plenty of additional 100 thousand or so as donations to individual states, presumable for medical workers.

[RedHorse]

Here’s more data.

Around the world, more see the U.S. positively than China, but little...

When it comes to the US versus China, it appears America numba 1. And I suspect post-Wuhan flu, these numbers are even less favorable to China.

Interestingly, both Trump and Xi are unpopular but the thing is that us Americans have the right to replace Trump. At worst, he’ll only be around for another term. In China, there’s nothing legally stopping Xi from remaining in power for life.

[jdsmith]

@yyy

Palestine

What’s Palestine, Precious?

[noWhiners]

Oh I think you’re 3 kinds of wrong.
I do not mean that plans for an embassy are in the works now, but that the US gov’t is headed that way. I say they’ll stop referring to Taiwan as anything but it’s own entity soon enough. 10 usd - giddyup.

[silly.putty]

@hansioux

If Roosevelt can serve multiple terms during WW2, what’s to stop him from doing it?

Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution

Prior to the ratification of the amendment, the president had not been subject to term limits, but George Washington had established a two-term tradition that many other presidents had followed. In the 1940 presidential election and the 1944 presidential election, Franklin D. Roosevelt became the first president to win a third term and then later a fourth term, giving rise to concerns about the potential issues involved with a president serving an unlimited number of terms.

[sofun]

Obsolete No. Mature, stable, high yield, highly profitable, yes.

Most ASICs do not require or even should not use the bleeding edge process. Besides, what do you expect TSMC to say? 1nm, 2nm, pick a number?

[yyy]

1. He could do it Putin style, if his ego could take the beating, which it couldn’t, but it doesn’t matter because he won’t stay that popular that long.

2. He could do it Lee Kuan Yew style, but Ivanka is way smarter, so he would end up a mere figurehead, like a deposed-but-not-banished monarch.

3. He’ll probably be senile by the end of the decade anyway.

[yyy]

1. Oh come on. We don’t waste time splitting hairs about the appropriateness of saying “Taiwan” instead of “Separate Customs Area of Taiwan and Random Islands”. You know the point I was making.

2. I ain’t yo precious.

[afterspivak]

@yyy

[President Trump] like a deposed-but-not-banished monarch

Like King Lear, run through the Simpsons. Or something like that.

Guy

[jdsmith]

@yyy

Oh come on. We don’t waste time splitting hairs about the appropriateness of saying “Taiwan” instead of “Separate Customs Area of Taiwan and Random Islands”. You know the point I was making.

Do I? Taiwan is a country. Palestine is a word.

@yyy

1. I ain’t yo precious.

Give it time.

[yyy]

The point is, angering “Palestine” – define it however you like – by a diplomatic act is one thing, but angering China is another. Palestine according to many people doesn’t even exist, and cultural/ideological considerations aside, it has no pull to speak of (economically, militarily). China very much exists and has a lot of pull. So I don’t think the Jerusalem embassy thing makes a great case study for this hypothetical decoupling.

Clear enough?

[jdsmith]

@yyy

China very much exists and has a lot of pull.

@yyy

Clear enough?

You like China?