WANTED: Snake Stories from Taiwan

Hi everyone,

I’m currently writing a book about snakes in Taiwan and am looking for contributions in the form of personal encounters or observations.

Length doesn’t matter, one brief paragraph is as welcome as six elaborately written pages. Any style is OK, as is a humorous touch.

There will most probably no money in it, as I’m doing this solely as a fun project with a few educational bits thrown in. So if the mere glory of seeing your writing in print works for you, please write me at

habre3 at gmail dot com

Thanks very much in advance - looking forward to your stuff!

Hans

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Possibilities for the utter dearth of replies:

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  2. Story to tell, but too lazy to write

  3. Missed the original post the first time around

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Thanks again

H

Missed the original post the first time around.

There was a time a fellow F.commer and I visited the ruins of a hot spring resort near Jinshan that had been destroyed a week or so earlier by a typhoon. While we were walking along a path, to the left of which was a two-story cliff with a field below, we saw a traditional Chinese-style pavilion just off the path to the left. It was a lone structure rising up from the field below, and the only was on was a small bridge leading from the path. We decided to take a look at the pavilion. As we walked across the bridge, we heard a sound. We saw it was a snake in a ditch by the side of the path. The snake slithered out onto the bridge, and only then did we realize it was a cobra. The cobra sat there in the middle of the bridge, trapping us in the pavilion, from which there was no other way out. Several minutes later, as we were strategizing how to get out of the predicament without getting bitten, the snake finally slithered away, and we could safely cross the bridge back to the path.

[quote=“TwoTon”]No replies? Like, at all?

Possibilities for the utter dearth of replies:

  1. No story to tell

  2. Story to tell, but too lazy to write

  3. Missed the original post the first time around

  4. None of the above.

  5. All of the above

Check one ore more.

Thanks again

H[/quote]

  1. Didn’t survive the encounter to tell the story

Chris,

thank you very much for your story! Sounds like an adventure alright! Would you have a Google Maps/Google Earth link to the spot with the pavilion? I’ve heard about the cobras of Jinshan, but even though I live only 15 klicks away, I’ve never been snake hunting there.

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6. Didn’t survive the encounter to tell the story[/quote]
How could I miss that ? :slight_smile:

my snake stories didnt end well for the snakes.

Make sure you include this poem by DH Lawrence in the preamble. It’s all that really needs be said about snakes and people.

Snake

A snake came to my water-trough
On a hot, hot day, and I in pyjamas for the heat,
To drink there.

In the deep, strange-scented shade of the great dark carob-tree
I came down the steps with my pitcher
And must wait, must stand and wait, for there he was at the trough before
me.

He reached down from a fissure in the earth-wall in the gloom
And trailed his yellow-brown slackness soft-bellied down, over the edge of
the stone trough
And rested his throat upon the stone bottom,
i o And where the water had dripped from the tap, in a small clearness,
He sipped with his straight mouth,
Softly drank through his straight gums, into his slack long body,
Silently.

Someone was before me at my water-trough,
And I, like a second comer, waiting.

He lifted his head from his drinking, as cattle do,
And looked at me vaguely, as drinking cattle do,
And flickered his two-forked tongue from his lips, and mused a moment,
And stooped and drank a little more,
Being earth-brown, earth-golden from the burning bowels of the earth
On the day of Sicilian July, with Etna smoking.
The voice of my education said to me
He must be killed,
For in Sicily the black, black snakes are innocent, the gold are venomous.

And voices in me said, If you were a man
You would take a stick and break him now, and finish him off.

But must I confess how I liked him,
How glad I was he had come like a guest in quiet, to drink at my water-trough
And depart peaceful, pacified, and thankless,
Into the burning bowels of this earth?

Was it cowardice, that I dared not kill him? Was it perversity, that I longed to talk to him? Was it humility, to feel so honoured?
I felt so honoured.

And yet those voices:
If you were not afraid, you would kill him!

And truly I was afraid, I was most afraid, But even so, honoured still more
That he should seek my hospitality
From out the dark door of the secret earth.

He drank enough
And lifted his head, dreamily, as one who has drunken,
And flickered his tongue like a forked night on the air, so black,
Seeming to lick his lips,
And looked around like a god, unseeing, into the air,
And slowly turned his head,
And slowly, very slowly, as if thrice adream,
Proceeded to draw his slow length curving round
And climb again the broken bank of my wall-face.

And as he put his head into that dreadful hole,
And as he slowly drew up, snake-easing his shoulders, and entered farther,
A sort of horror, a sort of protest against his withdrawing into that horrid black hole,
Deliberately going into the blackness, and slowly drawing himself after,
Overcame me now his back was turned.

I looked round, I put down my pitcher,
I picked up a clumsy log
And threw it at the water-trough with a clatter.

I think it did not hit him,
But suddenly that part of him that was left behind convulsed in undignified haste.
Writhed like lightning, and was gone
Into the black hole, the earth-lipped fissure in the wall-front,
At which, in the intense still noon, I stared with fascination.

And immediately I regretted it.
I thought how paltry, how vulgar, what a mean act!
I despised myself and the voices of my accursed human education.

And I thought of the albatross
And I wished he would come back, my snake.

For he seemed to me again like a king,
Like a king in exile, uncrowned in the underworld,
Now due to be crowned again.

And so, I missed my chance with one of the lords
Of life.
And I have something to expiate:
A pettiness.

I’ve always liked that poem. As far as I know, though, it’s more about homosexuality than snakes.

Tommy 525, what happened to your snakes?

[quote=“TwoTon”]I’ve always liked that poem. As far as I know, though, it’s more about homosexuality than snakes.

Tommy 525, what happened to your snakes?[/quote]

I think he either killed them or ate them.

Ah! Or killed them AND ate them…now there’s a story right there!

I’ll tell my snake story later. Twotons, sometimes people don’t see the thread or see it, hope to respond, and forget later. Keep this alive and you’ll get yer stories.

I also suggest updating the thread regularly (once a month) by saying how many stories you have got. Even if you have to make it up do so as it will encourage others to tell their tales.

[quote=“TwoTon”]I’ve always liked that poem. As far as I know, though, it’s more about homosexuality than snakes.

Tommy 525, what happened to your snakes?[/quote]

Perhaps or a man at a waterhole and there is a snake there. Certainly it says a lot about people, hate, irrational fear, societal education, respect, and pettiness.

Thanks, Mucha Man - good call!!

Sometimes a snake is just a snake? :slight_smile:

Sometimes a snake is just a snake? :-)[/quote]

I know he married but wasn’t Lawrence a rampant herpetologist?

Ok never ate a snake and never want to. We have all seen the snakes being skinned alive at huashi street in wanhua. Always thought of snakes as hideous creatures to be killed on sight (Satan being a serpent and all that).

First time played with a snake was when some guy brought a green grass snake to school and i got to keep it in my pocket for a coupla hours. That that tiny snake was pretty cool.

Went to FASD hostel in Oluanpi back when it was considered haunted and it certainly was desolate back then. They told us to watch out for snakes. Hear of one american girl who was bitten and died there. Deathly scared of snakes afterwards.

Saw a baby cobra walk cross my path in wanli once at a Christian summer camp.

Years later, lived in an apt in wanli. Came home late one nite ( i come home late every nite) and it was pretty dark. Summer time. Opened the bottom door to the 4 story walk up and thought the door ran over a giant rubber band. Its dark cuz the lights are out , so i kinda moved the door back and forth and sure enough it was jammed against some giant rubberband? In the back of my head, suddenly equated giant rubber band to be a possible snake !!!

bolted up the stairs taking five stairs at a time. Then decided I better see whats up. Came back downstairs with a flashlight and a broom. Saw a GIANT goddang snake, now curled between the half opened door and the doorframe. Thought id hightail it back upstairs but then thought that the snake will present a problem later on as it likely will stay in that area. So suddenly had idea to slam the door shut, thereby pinning the snake against the frame. Door wouldnt completely shut due to size of snake. So used broom handle to cut the snake in half. Blood spurted all over the dang place and a really really raw smell permeated the place.

Ddint enjoy doing that. Had nitemares of riding my moped and suddenly being surrounded by snakes for a coupla nites. Called the neighborhood attendents and they came by and couldnt iden the snake but took it away for soup. But then decided against it because apparently they only wanted to eat it if it was killed by them or something. Probably a harmless snake, who knows.

On two separate occasions purposely drove over a snake i saw crossing the road. First time , right after came across a huge centipede crossing my living room after coming home from killing the snake. Cut that sucker into two and both halves ran off, tracked both halves down and squashed it.

Decided that killing snakes was not a good thing, after killing another much smaller snake on another dark nite coming home.

A few days later also saw neighborhood kids torturing and beating to death a beautiful python type snake, wanted to actually rescue it from them, but it was too late

All in all, HATE SNAKES. Realize they have their place and now will go out of way to avoid them and not kill them but still fear and hate them.

There was that snake incident at Manyueyuan that time… one of our hiking group walked right over a deadly Banded Krait.

There was that snake incident at Manyueyuan that time… one of our hiking group walked right over a deadly Banded Krait.[/quote]

During a night hike?

Here’s something I once wrote somewhere:

In spite of their fearsome venom that technically allows them to kill a few dozen humans with a single munch, kraits do not seem to view their awesome toxicity as a defensive tool. In fact, defense is hardly ever on their mind. Kraits do bite people, but almost never as the result of a classic confrontation between snake and human. In South Asia, krait bites almost exclusively occur at night when people lying asleep on the ground in or outside their homes roll over in their sleep and onto kraits that have snuck onto the premises to forage.

There was that snake incident at Manyueyuan that time… one of our hiking group walked right over a deadly Banded Krait.[/quote]

That’s not bad too. One of mine is about the cat and cobra fighting in the middle of a residential street in Muzha. The other was this strange period where I seemed to attract snakes like crazy. A 3m 15cm thick beauty snake lumbering in front of me in Taian, a baby habu slithering between my legs, stepping on a baby bamboo viper and having one of us scream (still not sure who), and heading down a trail to my car and having a 2m bamboo viper whip past me turn his head (as he is still moving forward) to give me the evil eye. :laughing:

There was that snake incident at Manyueyuan that time… one of our hiking group walked right over a deadly Banded Krait.[/quote]

During a night hike?

Here’s something I once wrote somewhere:

In spite of their fearsome venom that technically allows them to kill a few dozen humans with a single munch, kraits do not seem to view their awesome toxicity as a defensive tool. In fact, defense is hardly ever on their mind. Kraits do bite people, but almost never as the result of a classic confrontation between snake and human. In South Asia, krait bites almost exclusively occur at night when people lying asleep on the ground in or outside their homes roll over in their sleep and onto kraits that have snuck onto the premises to forage. [/quote]

It was a day hike but it was so long by the time we got out of the park it was dark. Had to walk about a km on the road in the dark. Katelin stepped over something and I told everyone to stop. We turned our flashlights on the ground and their was the krait.

There was that snake incident at Manyueyuan that time… one of our hiking group walked right over a deadly Banded Krait.[/quote]

During a night hike?[/quote]
It was night time, on the road as we walked back to the car after a day hike.

Earlier that day we saw a non-venomous Mountain Keelback slithering on one of the giant trees way above Manyueyuan Park. That was a two-snake hike!

Another time was coming across a Russel’s Viper blocking the path.

Oh, and another time we saw a Bamboo Viper swim across a river.