21)Says his behavior is that way because of how he grew up/ his family does things
20)He gets you all stirred up on plans he has for himself and never completes them. Hell, he’s never completed a goal.
19)He really gets excited over video games
18)He’s disrespectful of waiters, impatient at the drive thru, and generally rude to those in the service industry
17)Incapable of having a disagreement that doesn’t involve going below-the-belt verbally
16)Conversations generally focus on him
15)Never weighs or is reflective how his actions have impact on others around him
14)Has debt and not concerned or motivated to be responsible for it
13)Lives with his mother and doesn’t help out. Worse, he complains about how she is.
12)Hangs out with his “boys”/“guys”-not his friends and his humor isn’t above 8th grade level
11)Not self-reliant or self-actualized.
10)Incapable of saying sorry because of fear that it would make him lose power in a situation. Or manhood.
09)Can’t take charge of situations in his life. Or just avoids them
8)Takes charge but is very defensive
7)Has male friends who don’t mind referring to women as ‘bitches’
6)Clothes? T-shirts are fine, but if he is resistant to just having an ironed t-shirt
then…
5) Rabid about politics
4) Leaves the toilet seat up even when you ask-not complain or yell or nag- to remember to put it down
3)Has only beer and cheese wiz in his fridge
2)Suggests he gets you implants for Christmas/Birthday
The real warning sign…
[color=darkred]1)Hasn’t told his parents or friends about you because he’s afraid of what they would think[/color]
What if it’s at his place? My ex from long ago would whine like a banshee when I’dleave the seat up in my own apartment… I never understood her obsession with toilet seats. She claimed she’d fall in. I wondered why she’d sit without looking first. Ah, the mysteries of the opposite sex never cease to amaze!
I would run away from any woman who asked me if I were “self-actualized” or to “be reflective on how my actions have impact on others around me”. And ironing a t-shirt? Shirley, you’re jesting, right?
[quote=“Namahottie”][color=red]21)Says his behavior is that way because of how he grew up/ his family does things
20)He gets you all stirred up on plans he has for himself and never completes them. Hell, he’s never completed a goal.[/color]
19)He really gets excited over video games
[color=red]18)He’s disrespectful of waiters, impatient at the drive thru, and generally rude to those in the service industry
17)Incapable of having a disagreement that doesn’t involve going below-the-belt verbally
16)Conversations generally focus on him
15)Never weighs or is reflective how his actions have impact on others around him
14)Has debt and not concerned or motivated to be responsible for it
13)Lives with his mother and doesn’t help out. Worse, he complains about how she is.[/color]12)Hangs out with his “boys”/“guys”-not his friends and his humor isn’t above 8th grade level
[color=red]11)Not self-reliant or self-actualized.
10)Incapable of saying sorry because of fear that it would make him lose power in a situation. Or manhood.
09)Can’t take charge of situations in his life. Or just avoids them[/color]8)Takes charge but is very defensive
7)Has male friends who don’t mind referring to women as ‘bitches’
6)Clothes? T-shirts are fine, but if he is resistant to just having an ironed t-shirt
then…
5) Rabid about politics
[color=red]4) Leaves the toilet seat up even when you ask-not complain or yell or nag- to remember to put it down[/color]
3)Has only beer and cheese wiz in his fridge
2)Suggests he gets you implants for Christmas/Birthday
The real warning sign…
[color=red][color=darkred]1)Hasn’t told his parents or friends about you because he’s afraid of what they would think[/color][/quote][/color]
All the items on the list in red would apply to my husband. Man, I wish you’d posted this eight years ago! I’m such an idiot!
Run Forrest Run! So are you one of those morons who don’t think about what they say or do? Surely I don’t believe so.
Reflecting on one’s actions is not some esotric thing. Realizing that not everyone shares a love of nose picking or bleching at the table can be useful.
And being self-actualized, I’m certain that you are. You know who you are and what you like and have your own power/have own voice. That is self-actualization, IMO.
Ever since our primary school teacher told us she found a rat swimming in her toilet bowl while staying in a hotel in Egypt, I sure do look first before sitting down. A rat in this situation is desperate to hang onto something, if you know what I mean.
Personally I think the toilet seat issue is the golden indicator for a man. If she’s going to bitch about the seat up or down, and recall most of us are in Asia where bathrooms are “wet” and it’s actually good manners to keep the seat up, then that’s merely the thin edge of a very rotten wedge. A clear statement of intent that there is a shitload more meaningless, inane twaddle to bore you with ahead.
One seat down complaint and I’d consider the lass as having tripped the det chord. It’s over, we have nothing more to discuss. I value my nag free life rather highly, thanks. My only possible further action would be to put the seat down and piss all over it before walking out the door.
Then again, I’m a proven bastard. So far this approach has worked very nicely for me. I’m nag free, to do what I want, any old how.
As for the rest of that list, I think it can be simplified rather nicely by merely asking, does he have a penis? And quite frankly, men that worry themselves silly over toilet seats probably shouldn’t have one.
hanging out with the boys not OK? What, now I can’t even pick my own friends? So what if they call women bitches and ho-hos? It’s got nothing to do with my relationship with the gf. And here I thought I was self-actualizing.
toilet seat. I never understood this one. I use the toilet, so I put the seat up. You use the toilet, you put the seat down. What could be more simpler? You’ve got eyes and an opposable thumb, so use it. Unless my gf is handicapped, I expect her to have at least the minimum amount of brains to extend her hand, and lower the seat. When did it become a cardinal rule that the default position of a toilet seat is down? (mind you, I grew up with sisters) Laziness - it goes both ways.
Ever since our primary school teacher told us she found a rat swimming in her toilet boil while staying in a hotel in Egypt, I sure do look first before sitting down. A rat in this situation is desperate to hang onto something, if you know what I mean. [/quote]
[quote=“Jack Burton”]Whoever wrote this list was pretty insecure:
what the hell does self-actualized mean?[/quote] You know who you are and what you want. Not what impresses mommy and daddy. This is one of the things that seperate the men from the boys.
[quote]2. hanging out with the boys not OK? What, now I can’t even pick my own friends? So what if they call women bitches and ho-hos? It’s got nothing to do with my relationship with the gf. And here I thought I was self-actualizing.[/quote] Notice that I put boys in quotation marks. Who wants a man has “boys” to hang out with as oppose to hanging out with “friends”? Yea, if you’re around men who call women bitches and hos then it’s got a lot to do with your gf. Who you associate with says alot about you.
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3. toilet seat. I never understood this one. I use the toilet, so I put the seat up. You use the toilet, you put the seat down. What could be more simpler? You’ve got eyes and an opposable thumb, so use it. Unless my gf is handicapped, I expect her to have at least the minimum amount of brains to extend her hand, and lower the seat. When did it become a cardinal rule that the default position of a toilet seat is down? (mind you, I grew up with sisters) Laziness - it goes both ways.[/quote]
Glad you make your rant only to make sense at the end. It’s a two way street.
I will never understand men who get pissed about women ranting about the toilet seat left up.
The problem is not the toilet seat position, the problem is the mess created when a man urinates while standing. You can’t really avoid that some drops will find the back rim of the bowl. Who cleans the toilet once a week? If the woman cleans the toilet she is right to be “pissed off” about the lack of cooperation on the man’s side. Putting the seat down could be a way of saying “Sorry that I urinate all over the place, I just can’t help it!” If the man does the cleaning, he should leave the toilet seat where ever he wants. End of story.
I’ve never been with a woman who ever even mentioned the toilet seat thing. I’ve never understood why anyone would ever get her knickers in a twist over that. I’d certainly look askance at her and think a lot less of her if she did.
[quote=“Namahottie”][quote=“Jack Burton”]Whoever wrote this list was pretty insecure:
what the hell does self-actualized mean?[/quote] You know who you are and what you want. Not what impresses mommy and daddy. This is one of the things that separate the men from the boys.
[quote]2. hanging out with the boys not OK? What, now I can’t even pick my own friends? So what if they call women bitches and ho-hos? It’s got nothing to do with my relationship with the gf. And here I thought I was self-actualizing.[/quote] Notice that I put boys in quotation marks. Who wants a man has “boys” to hang out with as oppose to hanging out with “friends”? Yea, if you’re around men who call women bitches and hos then it’s got a lot to do with your gf. Who you associate with says alot about you.
[quote]
3. toilet seat. I never understood this one. I use the toilet, so I put the seat up. You use the toilet, you put the seat down. What could be more simpler? You’ve got eyes and an opposable thumb, so use it. Unless my gf is handicapped, I expect her to have at least the minimum amount of brains to extend her hand, and lower the seat. When did it become a cardinal rule that the default position of a toilet seat is down? (mind you, I grew up with sisters) Laziness - it goes both ways.[/quote]
Glad you make your rant only to make sense at the end. It’s a two way street.
I will never understand men who get pissed about women ranting about the toilet seat left up.[/quote]
I should rephrase my comment. The only people who use “self-actualization” are people who read self-help books. This tells me the person who says this type of stuff is not herself self-actualized since she’s reliant on self-help books.
That said, I do agree with your notion that an individual should be independent thinking and not beholden to others like his parents (not overly so that is)
My gf shouldn’t be telling me which one of my friends is a “boy” and which one is “acceptable.” I certainly don’t have them saying bitch around my gf, but it doesn’t say a lot about me that my friends use such terms. They don’t have to be like me or vice versa for me to like them. That’s the beauty of friendship. They don’t have to be on the same moral compass (and vice versa within reasonable bounds - ie I don’t associate with murderers and rapists) for me to be friends. I have friends who do drugs, are alcoholics, and womanizers, but that doesn’t make me one. This is something an insecure person does not undertand and fears.
That said, one should be intelligent about who one makes friends with.
You just conceded that women rant about toilet seats left up. I merely say, use the hand that you were born with. It’s simple. Enough said.
That said, if I’m making a mess peeing all over the place and not keeping the bathroom generally clean, you have a legitimate complaint.
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