Water Supply in Taiwan

That require politicians and heads of state to be adults, and most often they do not win votes or elections by being adults. They win votes/elections by manipulating the masses.

Water molecules actually continually self-ionize into H3O+ and OH ions and recombine again with a lifetime of around 10 hours at room temperature, such that the majority of @Marco will never be old enough to drink. :upside_down_face:

That’s heavy water

What? No it’s not, it’s water water, H2O. Heavy water does the same thing, just slower.

Responsible politicians require you, me and the rest of society to be adults too. back to the chicken or the egg scenario. We keep spinning our wheels because almostno one wants to put in effort. Those of us that do are called dreamers, hippies, extremists etc by the very people we are trying to help and that are unwilling.to lift a finger, even for themselves.

So, in my opinion, rather than waiting for useless people to start acting, we ourselves can start acting. one of the advantages of living in a free country is that everyone can act. they just need to make that choice.

Noooooooooo!

And politicians labor to put the likes of us in prison, like Nixon did.

If marco had chosen carbon instead, how would you steelman the argument then? After all, dry weight marco is still largely carbon.

Yes, so my point remains. As does my question. Now you need to be the adult, not just bend over and take it because other people arent adults.

I am trying to remember but I remember heavy water and light water are used to identify the ages and processes that allowed those molecules to get to where they are found. Studied it myself at one point but have to revisit.

My wife is convinced I’m stupid (as are many) anyway so no need for you to point this out.

I think dry-weight @Marco is old enough to drink on an atomic basis, but might find it challenging to do so.

Try telling that to silica…

You can’t count on democracy to solve anything. Most people have no idea what it takes to run a country and would only vote for themselves free gifts from the treasury. Ones who succeed in a democracy does so because of their orator ability, not because they are adults.

It’s 99% emotion basically. This is also why most countries are autocratic despite what their political system is. We all want dictators.

By the way this is also why we have kings in the old days. Basically they pledge fealty to a king to fight their battles for them.

Not even close - California captures around half the water for use, leaving only about half for the environment (and that doesn’t mean letting it just run into the ocean). Then there’s extremes like Owens lake…

Like I said, I’ve heard about these problems for years. A show I’ve listened to for years has 2 different California farmers, and another guest who writes about west coast issues - talk about and discuss - California water woes.

This is one of the recent articles that pops up concerning this matter. It quotes gov research that says 95% of rainwater runs off into the ocean.

Maybe you can point me in the right direction as you say my information is not even close.

From the article -

nearly 95% of incoming water has flowed into the Pacific Ocean, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation.

I guess I am reading this wrong.

Maybe you can interpret this for me - tell me what it is actually saying

Rainwater is not just a subset of water (your first statement was they let almost all the water runoff into the ocean), and that figure is talking specifically about the heavy rains from the atmospheric rivers this year, about a specific part of the water system. Given all that, if the environmental regulations were relaxed, most of the big rainfalls would still not be captured (that seems obvious).

(edit: the specific issue was some wanted more water diverted from the ‘first flush’, when flows are reduced. in a dry year, upwards of 80-90% of water is diverted. edit2: that reservoir will probably reach capacity with the snowpack this year - so diverting more from the environment would not have resulted in more water stored. edit 3: having the reservoir full early hurts flood mitigation with so much snowpack.).

From my memory -

the farmers complained that even with all of the recent rains and snow - California will go from drought to drought because of policies in place.

After all of the wildfires and the huge amounts of snow, they expect major flooding when the snow melts, and very soon after - drought conditions again.

These farmers are probably full of crap and have no idea what they are talking about.

That’s true - one year doesn’t fix long term issues. That should be obvious, and is to everyone except those not concerned about the environment that crawl out of the woodwork everytime it rains in California to ask ‘what drought?!’ And it’s obvious because it’s getting drier, population is increasing, farmers keep doing stupid shit, and the antiquated water rights laws results in things like Saudis buying land / water rights in desert areas like California (and Arizona and New Mexico) to grow water intensive crops like alfafa to export home because they’ve banned it at home because it’s stupid to grow that shit in dry places.