What are the objective & legitimate reasons to support the Chinese KMT in Taiwan?

The KMT inflected answer would be: It would be fine if the KMT were in charge all the time! It’s the DPP that has messed everything up!

Guy

You claim you are not making things up, but you are making up your own romanization here.

Min ≠ “Ming”
Tang ≠ “Tan”

In the Big Picture, this is not the Biggest Point. But you could still up your game here. :upside_down_face:

Guy

They appear to have a “hand the keys to Beijing” agenda.

Who needs war when Beijing can take over after some ill-considered “agreement”? And who among us thinks that this would lead to “peace”?

Hint: it would not.

Guy

I know China isn’t the best government out there, but the US provoking trade and other wars is going to destroy many people. They need to stop. If there’s prosperity with everyone then we don’t have to worry about authoritarianism as much.

Yes agreed. From a purely geopolitical sense the usa is acting in a logical manner. Unfortunately this entails wars.

I could be mistaken with all of what I have written below. However what I write is the take away that I had in my mind after unsuccessfully trying to get my kid into a public kindergarten several years ago in New Taipei. I previously had had the belief that foreigners had access to public kindergarten spaces, however when I went to enroll my son I was told that - under a brand new regulation - foreigners were not accepted. I repeated at several kindergarden’s and was turned away: it was locals only for the lottery.

This regulation I believe had been brought in by DPP politicans and it said that foreigners in New Taipei could apply to public kindergartens after the lottery was finished if there were left over spaces. This means that foreigners were effectively cut out: despite the fact that we pay the exact same taxes.

I interpreted this as DPP being more inclined to a smaller sense of belonging: similar to the small local nationalist movements in Europe. Ireland for the Irish, England for the English, France for the French etc. I imagined the KMT as being more open and internationalist. So if I had a vote I would be more inclined towards voting for them.

I don’t support the ‘Dem foreigners coming over here taking our ______’ when I am in my own country, and I certainly don’t support it in another country where I am one of dem foreigners.

Again I could be entirely mistaken in this impression of DPP v KMT, but it is the rough impression that I had in my mind.

There has not been a DPP mayor in New Taipei City for 20 years. The DPP has never controlled the city council there.

Down south where the DPP runs things, they are begging for people to enroll their kids in public kindergartens. Although this is because of dramatic demographic change.

Lol, isn’t that funny, not sure why I thought it was the DPP, maybe it just seemed to me like the sort of thing they would do, and someone suggested to me that it was a DPP thing, so I jumped to conclusions. Unless it was a national regulation change.

I wonder who is responsible for excluding ARC and APRC holders from the don’t be afraid of taking a holiday in Hualien sweetener

Ya, fair point. Probably the t shirts they wear threw me off. Like street signs, there are a few different romanizations available for the exact same thing.

China/Chinese

Kuo/Guo

Min/Ming

Tan/Dan/Tang/Dang

Anyway, it’s a full political discussion now, rather than a discussin about everyday life in regards to what side leads us. So. Fugg it. But if anyone who is a CKMT supporter, point out the real world, on the street, reasons why they are preferable (not just against the dpp, just simply why they are so preferable). Still curious.

Okay…if going that direction of being historically and officially correct naming for that party…perhaps should also refer to Taiwan from now on as the Republic of China.

Call them what they want to be called :slight_smile: they are pretty happy calling themselves Chinese. It’s in their name. It’s been my avatar for a couple years just so people can’t call foul :wink: referrences provided above :slight_smile:

So, how how about how they improve your life in taiwan? What are the pros?

DPP’s energy policy sucks… badly.

They’re all in on green energy yet over 90% of Taiwan’s energy needs are met with imported fossil fuels. Lots of people online keeps quoting their “make power with love” remark.

The political shake up is badly needed.

Bro, I even specifically said this thread isn’t about politics so much as everyday life that this one group of society affects. Nothing to do with dpp. Make a dpp thread, I’m happy to join in there :slight_smile:

Rather than shit on on DPP here (thats what the politics fkrum is for :roll_eyes:), this is your place to praise the CKMT on how they (as a party or a group) actually improve your/our lives…The fact so few are able to kind of says a lot :wink:

Example. CKMT gives high handouts to certain sects of society (military, civil servants, teachers, aboriginals etc) and those groups tend to like the extra privileges (be it actual $, ease of loans, grants, projects etc). That is an example of where the CKMT actually benefits a few people and they maybappreciate that.

KMT does have a more realistic energy policy, that won’t result in Taipower going bankrupt.

Great, please explain in more detail :slight_smile:

Like not shutting down Taiwan’s remaining nuclear power, and actually getting more nuclear capacity built if those damned protester would just stop getting in the way.

Keep harping about Taiwan independence yet seems to take away Taiwan’s ability to be independent at every turn.

“This thread about a political party isn’t about politics.”

It’s about the affects of your everyday life, despite what some people want to keep inserting. The focus is on life in Taiwan.

Obviously nearly every aspect of life here touches politics, but that’s not the conversation wanted (being about political parties and which is better, whos policy is best etc). It’s about one group, that has loads of control over our lives and what their benefits are in said everyday lives. We ain’t trying to work out nuclear policy in this thread.

I don’t know anything original about this topic.

According to one source, most people here identify themselves as Taiwanese, some people think of themselves as both Taiwanese and Chinese, and a few people identify themselves as just Chinese.1

I think a lot of the support for both of the two main parties comes from the idea of getting material rewards from one or the other (or both) of those two parties.2, 3

One more thing: I think the official term for Taiwan is “the Free Area” or “the Taiwan Area” of the Republic of China.

And yet one more thing: As a side note, occasionally I receive correspondence from the US addressed to me in “Taiwan, Province of China.”

That’s all nice, and political. But…What about your life. How are you affected by this group?