What are the objective & legitimate reasons to support the Chinese KMT in Taiwan?

Yeah, I know, you keep repeating that over and over. I’m just saying it’s silly to say it’s not about politics. It is absolutely about politics. What you’re describing is political by definition.

Well, so far Kuomintang doesn’t seem to have directly harmed me, but if I were Taiwanese, I might end up supporting the Kuomintang in hopes that they would preserve safety and stability. Then again, I might throw caution to the winds and support the DPP, or some outfit on that side of things.

I’m saying I don’t want a political discussion/debate in a forum dedicated to precusely that. I want to have a living in taiwan spectrum of a conversation even though itbis about the life we get with a ceetain group of people). Seems pretty hard to have online aparently lol. Face to face, we chat about this daily here.

Public university professors (myself included) are, in my experience, more likely to be light blue (at least). This makes sense, given the way public servants have been treated well by the KMT.

Another factor is how the KMT perform on the municipal level (嘉義 and 黃敏惠市長 as an example). Between 黃’s terms, the DPP mayor 涂醒哲 was competent, but much less charismatic. I’ve met and worked a bit with both (涂 more). Their styles of leadership are quite different and they both excelled in their own ways, but 黃 has simply made herself more endearing on a personal level. Meeting her is always a pleasure.

The county, on the other hand, is deep green. I’ve met 翁章梁縣長 several times, as have friends of mine. He’s an an obvious and obnoxious narcissist, but is effective at selling himself to the masses through propaganda, despite doing nothing that impressive. Face-to-face, however, he’s creepy.

And I’m saying you don’t get to bring up a political topic and then say you don’t want political discussion. Asking people how a political party (your view toward whom you make clear by insisting to refer to them by a name that isn’t how they are known in English) has made their life better isn’t tangentially political or “kinda sorta” political. It is political. Full stop. I’m on your side, for what it’s worth— can’t stand the KMT. I’m just finding the way you’re going about this to be disingenuous and obnoxious.

No it’s not. The Taiwan Politics forum is for all things politics in Taiwan. Even if it is about practical effects on your life. If you are asking about how something political affects your life, then it is political.

Genuinely curious - in your opinion, is the policy that prevents your collaboration with Chinese scholars something that comes from the Chinese side, Taiwanese side, the University or a combination of all. Or is it the climate that prevents the scholars themselves from feeling comfortable collaborating? Perhaps all and more? I have no connection to your industry but am curious.

You might want to address the reply to the other guy making the assertion about academic collaboration. It’s been a very long time since I was involved in anything academic, and that was before the pandemic.

The White Party hasn’t voted against the KMT yet. They either voted with the KMT, or when the issue is a bit less savory for their youth votes, they simply fail to show up.

The KMT was pushing for a bill to get some of their party assets back. Some in the White Party said they want to cast a vote against the KMT bill, but in the end, all 8 TMD legislators failed to show up.

So I think it’s a joke to call the White Party anything than a Light Blue party at this point.

I don’t really have a strong opinion about any benefits personal to me, but if I were Taiwanese, I might favor the Kuomintang, because I might believe that that party’s past contacts with China,1, 2 especially when coupled with occasional evidence of the party’s ongoing strong identification with China,3 might have reduced the risk of China invading Taiwan.

The 8 TMD legislators must be getting a lot of money under the table. They are the worse

Their website literally says KMT. CKMT is something you come up with some agenda and honestly it makes people less likely to believe you want discussion in good faith.

It is like saying everyone in Taiwan are Chinese because the country is called Republic of China. Call people by what they identify themselves with, people in Taiwan mostly refer themselves as Taiwanese and KMT call themselves KMT (unless you actually are KMT member and is pushing for some reform lel)

It was the Taipei KMT mayor who said it last weekend.

For some reason I am now imagining riveting face to face discussions over at the chung kuo min ta hsueh abnormal university department of not political politics :grin:

Just imagine the possibilities for interdisciplinary collaboration with set theory!

And people doesnt agree with him.

I suggest you check his thumbnail. It’s their Chinese name.

Yet KMT people keep saying stuff like that.

Yep, pretty much. From a chapter near me:

From the party’s website:

https://www.kmt.org.tw/

It’s not called the Chinese Nationalist Party for nothing. The only one who considered removing China from the KMT’s name was LTH, and he was met with backlash. Also the name TKMT is already taken. Perhaps they should have just went with TMNT or something while they were at it.

Sure. I understand your opinion. Disagree, but i get your point of view. Hence why I made another thread, which wasn’t cool for some reason. I didn’t insert any opinion into it.

Regardless, back on topic. If this is about life in Taiwan, people keep mentioning reasons why they don’t like CKMT or DPP or TPP or whatever. Whish is political as hell and exactly against the point of the thread. It’s the exact polar opposite of what the thread is about. How is the CKMT improving our lives here.

Yes, repeated again, because people are focusing on the compete opposite :sweat_smile: