From Taiwan: places to eat breakfast, more relatives, walkability, less divisive political climate, no mass shootings, stronger family bonds, less ideologically charged attitudes towards things like climate change and free trade.
For Taiwan: Better-painted buildings, better colleges, more cars, more space, more confidence in themselves as a people.
more cars, less motor scooters?
Yes
More scooters, less cars.
I think it would be disastrous for victims of domestic abuse, road rage, and all-too-common gangster quarrels.
Put otherwise: hard pass.
Guy
Whoah this is utterly something isnât it? When I arrived here, Taiwan was (and in some ways remains) as politically polarized as they get!
Guy
But those guys werenât armed with guns. If anything it proves that guns donât lead to violence. Theyâre just a tool to protect the rights of individuals especially as a safeguard against tyranny. In taiwan, tyranny is even closer to home as martial law only ended 30ish years ago
I disagree, I donât think the right to own guns would change any if that.
Besides I do think there should be safeguards in place on gun ownership. Similar to the USA, criminals convicted of violent crimes should lose this right
I wish to say that I think giving all those domestic abusers, road ragers, and gangsters guns is a terrible idea. 
Guy
In Australia when we want to quit a job we call in sick frequently leading up to and after giving our notice. Sick leave in Aus accrues indefinitely but when you quit you donât get them paid out so itâs use it or lose it 
Not personal protection, itâs to protect individual rights and persevere freedom. In America we say âin order to form a well regulated militia, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed uponâ it boils down to an ultimate check against governments monopoly over violence.
Seems the courts agree it was self defense
Having a well functioning democracy does this as well without crazies shooting kidsâŚ
Make them available during wartime. Letâs not export Usaâs mass shooting problem.
And how do guarantee a democracy is well functioning ? Every system needs safeguards to ensure the rights of individuals arenât swallowed up by an overreaching government
Agreed but the right to bear arms poses unnecessary risk to the individuals whose freedoms you want to protect. I think the freedom to live is more important.
Many countries function more democratically with more freedoms than the US without the right to bear arms.
This happens to be the part we disagree about
I donât think functioning should be the measure we strive for.
I missed the functioning DEMOCRACY part. Most democracies (including the us) have plenty of issues that I disagree with despite being functioning democracies
Same here but how does gun ownership solve these problems?
One of the biggest problems in the US (at least from the outside looking in) is gun violence