It is absolutely hilarious to watch these attempts at turning this into a ‘serious discussion on why Bush is wrong’ thread…again.
Face it people, no matter what pretense of intellectual superiority you adopt, Kerry is a mistake.
He was a traitor and liar during his military service, his persoanl life has been one of manipulation of women for his social/financial gain, he record as a Senator from Mass. is one of almost complete dereliction of duty and lack of attendance, he has continually seperated himself from his constituency while being nothing more than a kept gigalo and his election organization has acted in a manner reminiscent of organized crime.
And those are just the highlights.
I am not saying all of you should suddenly change your tune and become Bush-bots or even vote for Bush. Vote your beliefs. The simple facts are you cannot justify Kerrys election to the POTUS.
The Democratic Party screwed the pooch with their nomination of Kerry. But thats who they were told to promote and thats who they, and numerous 527 groups have put their money behind.
I will be the first to say that Pres Bush ain’t perfect. I strongly disagree with several of his policies. But he damn sure beats what is being offered as a replacement.
Look at his enemies, are these groups that have the best interests of the USA in mind?
Are these the groups that you wish to ally with?
Real life ain’t always nice. Sweet talk and touchy-feely may be nice in group-hug sessions and theraphy, but it only shows weakness to people who wish to kill you, your family and think they will go to paradise if they die doing it.
Comrade…my apologies for using your thread to get a rant off.
Great idea. Who represents the “Iraqui” people? The Coalition Forces are in the process of helping the Iraqui people form just this type of representative body. Trouble is, remnants of the old regieme and foreign terrs are working their hardest to keep this from happening. Thats reality.
Timetables are nice on paper. When does the clock start? What sequence of events says the clock stops? That is what is being worked out now.
[quote=“spook”]During the talks, assure them in writing that at the end of that short transition period, not a single US soldier would remain on Iraqi soil.[/quote]Talk with who? Why a ‘short’ transition period’? What if it takes a ‘long transistion period’? Do we walk away and leave them hanging? Thisis not a strong position for an ally to assume. What if they request a continued Coalition Force presence to ally their new government and fight foreign terrorist insugency?
[quote=“spook”]It’s no more complicated than that. These two steps are crucial to gaining the trust and cooperation of the Iraqi people – or of any people on earth – but they haven’t been taken.[/quote]Sorry, maybe in a textbook, or over a cuppa latte’ while smoking a Gauloise, wearing a black turtleneck and a beret. But in reality its a matter of negotiation. And first you have to have a platform from which to start negotiations. And have the negotiations with an indigenous group or groups that will carry out the terms and policies they have established.[quote=“spook”]The reason the Bush Administration hasn’t taken these two obvious common sense steps is because it doesn’t have any intention of allowing the Iraqi people to choose their own destiny independently and it doesn’t have any intention of ending the permanent military occupation of Iraq.[/quote]Your personal opinion. You are certainly entitled to it.
Reality is at odds with your interpretation. And reality is what counts. And reality ain’t as simple as your cafe’ two-step dance.