Why *some* East Asians *might be* Racist Against Indians *sometimes*

We’re kind of a clique on Forumosa, no? Agreed skin colour etc isn’t an issue.

Where did you live? This sort of statement is very ignorant IMO.

1 out of 10 doctors in the US are Indians.

Another NYT study:
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Also indians live in a joint family often no matter india or abroad so its common for indian families to have atleast 4 or 5 people in one family and thus more people bring money to home making the household income higher

Gotcha, over four years in college surrounded by a lot of international students, I found it equally prevalent among all major Asian ethnic groups tbh.

The only thing I noticed was that East-Asian women were way more likely to be with Caucasian guys than Indian women, but I think that is a side-effect of upbringing, beauty standards and representation in western media.

Another thing to note is that 30% of the Indian population is vegetarian, which is a diet that’s not nearly as prevalent in East-Asia (3-5%). The vast majority also doesn’t consume beef. These cultural differences make it harder to form friendships. If my caucasian friend invites me to grill beef patties for BBQ night, Im gonna decline.

To attribute these cultural differences to “clannish mentality” is a bit ignorant IMO.

How is that an ignorant statement? Indians become business owners in large numbers (gas stations, motels, etc.), and tend to be very successful. They’re also very well represented in the professions. Do you have something against small business owners?

Maybe you don’t like the word “clannish,” but it seems to fit pretty well. Large cultural differences can cause groups to stay together. And you can’t deny the strong pressure Indian parents give their children to date and marry Indians.

The statement you made:

Many Indian-Americans are very clannish and prefer to interact, form friendships with, date and marry their own kind.

Singling out one group here is actually doing more harm than good. Although you might think that you didn’t say anything wrong, but I think your “personal observations” might be biased.

Anytime anyone makes a statement like this about any racial group, the root for those feelings is prejudice and there is no ounce of fact in them. They will notice every Indian that enters the store and does this, but not every Caucasian.

I don’t have any issue with this word. But as I explained above, singling out Indians as being more “clannish” than other Asians is not accurate, and not based on fact. I avoid making statements like these about racial groups because it usually stems out of internal bias.

Immigrants are more likely to be in joint-families. Although this is a small sample size, my Indian-American friends in the US developed American values, valued independence and were not as attached to their parents.

Another thing to note is that in the image I shared, Indian-Americans had the highest percentage of population with a Bachelor’s Degree by a HUGE margin. This directly impacts salaries.

I’m sure all those highly successful Indian-Americans will be just fine. :sweat_smile:

Anecdotal evidence, yes, based on years of interaction with Asians from different countries in the U.S. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the statistics bore my observations out though (same-race marriage, for example).

(same-race marriage, for example

Already agree with you here and elaborated this above. It’s hard to quantify these things, but after having a deep understanding of Indian/Taiwanese culture, it’s obvious to me that the cultural gap between a Hindu Indian and a White American is much higher than between a Taiwanese and a White American.

FWIW, I got mugged by a black man in San Francisco and threatened by a black woman at the UPenn campus in Philadelphia, but I don’t go around saying that “black people are more likely to be criminals”. The issue here is not whether the statistics agree with you, it’s how your statement is consumed by other readers and the sentiment it generates.

I would hope that our dear readers are intelligent and well-adjusted enough to form thoughtful opinions on what they consume here, but of course I could be wrong.

Most Taiwanese people have never interacted with Indians but have dozens of negative opinions about them. Guess how that happened?

Probably from watching Three Idiots.

But seriously, the only stereotypes about Indians I’ve heard consistently from Taiwanese are that they’re good engineers.

I have talked to plenty of taiwanese and asked them this question and their answer is the same .

"we saw it on the news "

Paging @amitkattal and myself. We’re both Indians and regularly experience a lot of things here.

My worst interaction so far has been with a girl who said “wow I didn’t expect that an Indian would respect women like this”

I have been asked many times by taiwanese girls if they will be raped if they go to india alone. Or like do ALL indian men beat women? Or indian men can have many women? have many affair? List goes on

Non-Indians as they read this thread:

I always describe taiwanese by one word
“Credulous”

Not just in how they treat indians but like in every aspect of life.

Ah, this one is definitely a result of all those stories in the news. On the bright side, relations between Taiwan and India have been improving a lot lately, and hopefully that trend will continue. Nothing like a common enemy to bring people together.