X-Cube, X-Cute and the gangsters that can break the law openly

It’s pretty common knowledge by now that X-Cube in Taichung does not allow white male foreigners through its doors. You only need read the reviews on Google Maps both old and new to see that this practise continues.

The club’s official reasoning is stated within a news article from 2023 which blew up with a ton of views (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/4772831) but no feasible response from the authorities regarding what is clear and blatant racial discrimination. Their reasoning is (translated from Mandarin):

"In our experience of receiving guests, there have been too many incidents of tall, white males losing control after drinking. Our staff has suffered from an inability to mediate, and we currently have insufficient security personnel to deal with these situations.

"Therefore, to avoid unpleasant conflicts, we have decided not to allow people of this demographic into our club for the time being. Further, (men) of European or American ethnicity are overly enthusiastic in their efforts to party with (Taiwanese) girls. In many cases, their enthusiasm and physical actions are perceived as harassment by Taiwanese women.

"This often leads to physical altercations with the male Taiwanese guests accompanying (the women). I believe you can understand this point well enough.

"In fact, we have not discriminated against white European or American males (in the past). We have tried our best to serve every patron of our business, but our staff has become physically and mentally exhausted.

"We hope that your publicity will help the public understand our decision. Additionally, some of our club’s new signage was recently destroyed by people belonging to the group mentioned above.

“Their destructive tendencies are too strong. That is why we will no longer receive white European and American men as guests at our establishment.”

Now, I would actually be inclined to sympathize if this were actually the case. But all of this is clearly smoke and mirrors for the real issue at hand - whoever owns and operates this club acts above the law and in plain sight. X-Cube has had previous trouble for gang related fights and many of their google reviews also state other blatant criminal acts - such as tricking guests of their club into thinking that they broke the ‘key’ to their locker to extort money from them (read several reviews on Google and you’ll see this is common).

The club is well known for violent crimes and the occasional police raid (when things get bad?) as this article shows: 中市夜店X-CUBE廿七日凌晨驚傳大混戰 – 指傳媒

Another article: 台中「X-CUBE」夜店大亂鬥案 「鴨店」老闆幹的 - 社會 - 自由時報電子報

More recently, the club decided to deface Taiwan bank notes and distribute them as advertisements, to the distain of the normal law abiding Taiwan citizen.

These gangsters have also recently opened a new club called X-Cute in Kaohsiung, which operates the same policy (no white men or white people in general, according to their recent google reviews).

Laws openly and continuously broken:

Immigration Act: Article 62 prohibits discrimination against individuals residing in Taiwan based on nationality, race, color, class, or place of birth. Violators may be fined between NT$5,000 and NT$30,000 if they fail to rectify discriminatory behavior after being notified.

( Additionally, Taiwan has taken steps to align with international standards by implementing the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD). In 2013, the Presidential Office Human Rights Consultative Committee resolved to enforce ICERD domestically, recognizing its applicability due to Taiwans prior approval before withdrawing from the United Nations.)

In Taiwan, defacing or intentionally damaging currency is prohibited by law. According to Article 5 of the Penal Act of Offenses Against National Currency individuals who deliberately damage coins or banknotes, rendering them unusable, may be fined up to five times the nominal value of the affected currency.

It would be great to understand the general public’s opinions regarding this, especially those who have a good understanding of Taiwan. There is clearly a fundamental flaw in the system.

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And you still want to party at that club with all those illegal activities there.

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Wanting illegal discrimination enforced doesn’t mean that OP wants to go there.

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This law is never enforced in Taiwan. And even if it would, then those comically low fines are not a deterrent for business owners to violate it. They always can use some kind of excuse and authorities will accept it.

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Have you or anyone else actually filed a discrimination complaint?

Should do that if you want the thing enforced. (Or more accurately, if you want to hear from the government why it’s not discrimination. Taiwan #1.)

I probably wouldn’t be keen to go back to a “gangster” filled place after the complaint, personally. But if they won’t let you go anyway…

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They must be weak gangsters… lol

In our experience of receiving guests, there have been too many incidents of tall, white males losing control after drinking. Our staff has suffered from an inability to mediate, and we currently have insufficient security personnel to deal with these situations.

"Therefore, to avoid unpleasant conflicts, we have decided not to allow people of this demographic into our club for the time being. Further, (men) of European or American ethnicity are overly enthusiastic in their efforts to party with (Taiwanese) girls. In many cases, their enthusiasm and physical actions are perceived as harassment by Taiwanese women.

Basically they’re angry that the Western men go home with a Taiwanese girl and get their pecker wet, whereas they go home for a Pot Noodle and a wank.

Wrong, you couldn’t pay me to. The problem is that when many people are asked about this topic they say something like ‘oh that club doesn’t allow foreigners’ and generally don’t realize the full truth behind the subject, ignorant to the facts. Others even get scared.

The point is that Taiwan postures itself as a free, safe, diverse open democratic society and is today considered a first world country. People come to Taiwan to live, work and invest in this fallacy offered to them by the Government. In practice, ‘gangsters’ with face or money can practically do whatever they want and that just seems ridiculous. People might not bat an eyelid if they kept incognito about their operations but the whole thing is happening openly, including their extortion of their existing customers, making open threats to people, destroying bank notes and it’s very clear that the authorities are complacent. If I were an actual citizen of Taiwan I’d be much more outraged, alas I’m just a tax paying permanent resident.

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No, I’m very aware that the place is run and inhabited by violent Taiwanese thugs and daddy’s money rich Taiwanese kids. I don’t want to go to the club, I want to understand why it’s still operating under its own rules and jurisdiction.

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Furthermore this process of complaint laid out here is clearly a trap. You’re asked to surrender a ton of information including your name, other PII and how fluent you are in Mandarin. Considering all my above points I wonder how long it would take for your information to be obtained by outside sources.

Our complaint about the entire matter should be in a highly publicized format, such as an open petition public to the internet. I wouldn’t advise anyone to play their games and put in one of these formal complaints to be targeted and hear back in the next 6 years after the paperwork has pushed through.

The key point with gangster infested establishments like that is simple: stay the hell away. :slightly_smiling_face:

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The cops in that area are likely bought off and look the other way. Not a good idea to submit a report to them when they’ll likely pass your information on to gangsters when they ask for it.

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This seems ridiculous to me. How can they call Taiwan a safe country. A safe country with Taiwanese features? Why can’t the current government in Taipei reel this in?

It’s a night club, it’s not uncommon for nightclubs to be discriminatory for various reasons like gender, race, age, etc. I’m not saying it’s ok but it’s not really a Taiwan thing. Not sure why you’re going on a rant against Taiwan over mid nightclubs in Taiwan. There’s much better ones anyways.

And in my experience many night clubs do try to get white foreigners in the door in Taiwan. I used to be in the Taipei nightclub scene and these often tables reserved to get white models in, both male and female models. Many from Russian or Ukraine.

And you’re surprised that unsavory people are in a night club and have ties to gangsters? I’m not saying all of them are but it’s been my experience that it’s common.

My advice is to just forget it. There’s nothing positive for your life in there. I wish I didn’t waste my time there. I don’t speak to or hang out with anyone I met there anymore.

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Reel in what? I don’t recall any of the vendors I frequent not accepting my money because I don’t look like the people around me. You’re making a big to-do about a shit nightclub like it’s the next WuHan biolab.

It’s common in Japan or Korea, not Taiwan. And it shouldn’t be tolerated lest it become common practice.

I would never tell someone who experiences discrimination to just forget it. Besides I think you’ve misunderstood the OP. This about the principle of the matter and has nothing to do with wanting to go to that particular establishment. Racism should not be tolerated. Especially when its being publicized. I 100% agree with the OP.

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Finally, someone that gets it? A lot of smart comments here about how we should all just forget it, let it happen, stop making a fuss. That’s what’s been enabling this for so long. Also, it’s spreading further as this entity just opened a club in Kaohsiung with the same rules.

It’s clear the people behind these clubs are openly taunting the authorities, drawing permanently on bank notes and making their own rules. The truth is I’ve spoken to many people about their experiences here. Most genuine hard working Taiwanese hate the place and the ideas they’re spouting.

Furthermore, a taxi pulled up right outside the one time I ever did try to get in and there were several police cars present around when the staff all came outside to confront and try to threaten me. Other similar stories of how police were going inside and ordering people to delete photographs of the happenings inside off their phone.

Taiwan just ranked as ‘the 25th least corrupt country in the world’ yet this absolute horse **** is being allowed to happen in a country where we are told we can live safely and where we pay our taxes. I and everyone else have every right to be outraged and I want the matter to be further completely publicized so that they can’t keep getting away with LARPing as gangsters in a modern democratic society. Either that, or the Taiwanese authorities publicize that I’m making this out to be the next wuhan bio outbreak and that this is perfectly fine conduct in their non corrupt society. Which will it be?

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Sometimes you just have to do a cost benefit analysis on issues. 99% of the clubs in Taiwan are actually happy to get foreign faces in their clubs and will make efforts to get them in. It’s good for business. They put them at tables to show them off and get them drinks. Particularly models.

God forbids 1 shitty club in Taichung is doing the opposite.

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Exactly, why care about some “bumfuck” club in the middle of the sticks? Let them have incestuous, redneck, whisbih induced shenanigans.

Well not God but the constitution. I’d rather not see Taiwan turn into Japan where discrimination against foreigners is normalized.

In the center of Taichung and Kaohsiung? :thinking: