Barcelona terrorist attack

He hasn’t been caught yet, or he wasn’t last time I checked the news.

Terrorists are rational players. They have nothing to lose. Their only purpose is to make people afraid, and sadly their project has been a success. The politicians are all using these as justifications for more restrictions on civil rights, and they face very little opposition.

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I mean there isnt a cause and effect to their actions. This isnt geopolitics or retaliation for attacks on Muslims. Its terror and an attack on Western society. Everywhere is equally at threat from them.

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Was it 25 or 35 years? Trump changed the dates. This is not the first time he has referenced this.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest Pershing did any such thing. He wrote about another commander burying an insurgent with a pig. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Pershing himself used the pig tactic, or ordered the tactic to be used. None. Source? Pershing’s memoirs.

Also, Pershing was more about “hearts and minds” than all out brutality. See, it is widely understood that Pershing was a rational, humane man who used violence only as a last resort. You would have to wonder how an insurgent, or insurgency would react to having to deal with pigs. If your mindset is such that you will take a life to advance your cause, then piety will not stand in your way. Even if one was pious, believing enough in your cause will allow you to accept such a sacrifice. You see, suicide is explicitly banned in Islam. The Quran says so. The Quran is the word. However, the Imams who lead these terrorists, or the Imams the terrorists follow, have twisted it to mean a suicide attack is the same as dying in battle. Religion takes a backseat to political causes.

So there’s a politician from Barcelona saying that they didn’t have any security barrier set up because “nobody asked us to do it”. This is not true, since last December these barriers were suggested for all the cities in the territory. Apparently they thought they were either special or not Spain.

I just read that the authorities from Barcelona had been warned 2 months ago by the CIA about a possible terrorist attack. In the exact place where this one happened (that doesn’t surprise me anyway, because it’s the most touristic road and it’s perfect for doing what was done before in other countries in EU). Please @Icon, tell your informer to go fuck himself.

EDIT: this has been said on the media, who knows where it comes from. However, there are warnings like this often, it’s been like this for years.

The van driver was the 17 yo guy who stole the ID card from his brother, the one who went to the police station to denounce it.

He was about using the hearts and minds. That being said, he had no problem with force.

Pershing’s strict disciplinary standards were particularly unyielding on the point of security. In camp, on the march, and in the assault he never let up on security. In the attack, Pershing never sent a man where a bullet would suffice. His tactics incorporated and exploited the American advantages in firepower. In addition, he based his tactics upon a sound appreciation and knowledge of how the Moros would fight. Although Pershing took every opportunity to let diplomacy work, he never hesitated to use force in self-defense. The Moros quickly learned that attacks on Americans would be vigorously countered.http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ADA348522

I mean, any tourist place should have SOPs in place to hopelly prevent and unfortunately attend any kind of contingency of this magnitude.

If the warning was not attended, then the question is why? It could be played out in many ways.

Most commonly, warnings like this come into the agencies every week, and somehow, a tragic mistake is commited when the key one is unheed, as it is not expected to happen, like nothing has happened before.

One does wonder: do we have to close all pedestrian plazas to traffic? What can be set up to stop incoming trucks used as weapons?

…and no mention of pigs. Trump is full of it. That said…

and…as it stated in the document, no two incidents could be treated the same. Meaning, what worked with group A, will not necessarily work with group B. That is fine. That is everywhere and every situation. However…

We are dealing with group Z. Their MO is death and fear. They have no ideology except to kill. That is what they want and only what they want. They want people dead, for no other reason. Well, they want to create a cycle of perpetual war and violence. Whether there is a response to their actions or not, the violence will continue.

They do have a desire to have a showdown with the West, but one has to ask if a ragtag band such as the armies of Kurdistan and Iraq can send them limping away, how do they think they will fare against a more formable opponent?

And now the real trick. How do you fight an enemy that is not so easily defined? Do you treat every Muslim as a possible enemy? Maybe ISIS can find friends in the radical elements of the right and left of western politics. So, do we treat everyone as a possible terrorist?

I mean, any tourist place should have SOPs in place to hopelly prevent and unfortunately attend any kind of contingency of this magnitude.

If the warning was not attended, then the question is why? It could be played out in many ways.

Most commonly, warnings like this come into the agencies every week, and somehow, a tragic mistake is commited when the key one is unheed, as it is not expected to happen, like nothing has happened before.

One does wonder: do we have to close all pedestrian plazas to traffic? What can be set up to stop incoming trucks used as weapons?

I like the fact that terrorist attacks in Europe are now so common that people are more focused on the accuracy of Trump’s statements over security concerns.

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It’s impossible to prevent all attacks. You can prevent many if you are lucky, but nobody can control things like this always.

Also the police has done what looks like a great job. They can’t do much more.

Just like you can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time, you can also care about national security and make fun of Trump’s usual bumbling and inaccurate tweets at the same time.

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Just talking to my pals in Spain. Conclusion: there is no way to understand why terrorists do what they do, they are psychopaths. Problem is they get together and as a group of psychopaths, they do a lot of damage.

Plus the muddled waters left behind. My friends say the problem now is not to fall into islamophobia - which is the objective of the terrorists. More hatred, more psychopaths as cannon fodder.

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Sheesh. So bored of this, by now and too many dead. They aren’t psychopaths, they are brainwashed by a religion that has aims to be the final religion on the planet.

The objectives of the terrorists isn’t to create Islamophobia. They are mostly thick. Have a look at Chris Morriss satirical movie, Brass Eye, it’s a comedy but based on true accounts of idiotic Islamic terrorists. They want to create terror and they want to destroy the West.

You don’t help the situation by pretending there is no problem or that religion isn’t an issue. On the same note you don’t blame individual Muslims. Rather work with the liberal reforming Muslims and listen to what they have to say. Force Muslim communities to be more vigilant on their radicals.

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Brainwashed by an interpretation of a religion.

Islam, like anything else, can be used as an excuse to do anything.

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Gotta keep 'em honest.

Not really an interpretation though, more a literal reading of the hadith and the Qur’an.

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I’ll take and accept that.

But, still…its up to the individual to read it literally, or metaphorically.

While not suicide attacks, think of the clinic bombings, OKC (to a point. it was about fighting a war, not necessarily a religious one), Olympic bombings…all by people acting out in the name of a religion, if not directly then using it as a reasoning.

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